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    I do know something about ballet dancing when many young thin men and women in skin tight dress swirl around moving across with tunes on toes.
    What if the ballet in 800 a.d. byzantine era was performed on stage shows. Perhaps herr mozart ballet version was as is known play 'marriage of figaro' is infact junge romer itself. So kappelmeister bonno suggests that there are too many notes in the medley. And junge romer music is ballet music only. With a little alteration by employing a old english tune violin player would make junge romer sound fine.

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    Junge Roemer, junge
    Der Lorbeerkranz, ein neuer Tanz
    Schwingt Rhythmus in die Hüften der Stadt
    Man sieht und kennt und sagt sich
    Was diese Nacht zu sagen hat
    Fragt nicht nach neuen alten Werten
    Seht weißes Licht, seht nur Gefühl
    Die Nacht gehört uns bis zum Morgen
    Wir spielen jedes Spiel
    Laß diese Reise niemals enden
    Das Tun kommt aus dem Sein allein
    Allein aus Dimensionen, die
    Illusionen und Sensationen lohnen
    Give me more ...
    Junge Roemer - tanzen anders als die andern
    Sie lieben ihre Schwestern lieber, lieber als den Rest der Welt
    Frag' junge Roemer - kennt ihr die Sonne noch,
    Sie kennt die Sorgen
    Junge Roemer - die Nacht ist jung wie ihr,
    Vergeßt das Morgen
    Un ballo nuovo porta ritmo nei fiancho della cittá
    Ci vendiamo, trovimo, chiediamo che cosa si fa
    Ma non cercate die volori, e magari sensation
    La notte e'nostra fin al mattino abbiamo illusion
    No E'la fine del viaggino, ce' sempre un domani e
    Ci sono dimensioni, con illusioni e sensazioni
    Give me more ...
    Young romans - there is a night before each day
    And that price is still to pay
    Never stop this old erosion phantastic voyage
    Junge Roemer...
    Junge Roemer - kennt ihr die Sonne noch,
    Die Nacht ist jung wie ihr und doch
    Im Land wo jeder Traum gelandet ist - man vergißt
    Young romans - there is a night before each day
    And that price is still to pay
    Never stop this old erosion phantastic voyage
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    I mean, it all makes sense to me, but can ya make it fly?

    And Falco? Where does he fit in 8th century Byzantine thingummy? Could he have been born there, as Count Dracula (AKA Salieri)?
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    As seen in my mind memories salieri was in his young days a simple man. When mozart came to the village where salieri lived he had no house of his own, even though his dad was said to have been courtier in austria! So these were old times poor modest christian lifestyles of 800 a.d. when there was not even a tarmac road! So salieri might had given mozart one of his houses to live in. So salieri the court composer and mozart were very good friends. Friendship doesn't meaning embrassing one another, but something that is quiete unexplainable! There at home they with flambuoyant englishmen in talk as well as dressing; musicians practised many a themes in their old medieval music.

    This music then through renaissance years was a challenge for the coming generations depicted in music sheets. So in the late industrial ages of the so called modern world the musical exponents had achievably recorded performed many a music themes of herr mozart of soothing imaginations. But if we go in the past i am unsure if the same music theme is there, it could be gothic like there world thinking is different times from ours! So if herr mozart was in the modern day, he would had been bemused looking at all his followers, his music sheets but i don't think he would had liked the musicians playing his music, its music would had seemed different from what he like or what people of that time liked of him!

    Similarly as i had said about that in my dreams i had travelled to france opera musicians and there i found the musicians playing very badly below par. But still no one seemed to taking note nor understanding!

    So i saw in my memories that 'ballet dancing' too is a thing of the past! Its shocking for me too! But its of very olden times leisure for theatre staging! In the present day i travelled to some european country there i called upon many a groups of young ballet boys girls enthusiasts and i was rehearsing them for some song. And they never listened to me and acted very badly.

    I don't much about ballet dancing moves, but lets imagine if i was herr mozart then i had to stage an opera of junge romer ballet! So i took set of eight girls and six boys! The opening of the ballet with the music with four girls each on sides. They loomed swayed and crossed one another as the music progresses. With boys swaying three on each side opening and moving in circular rotations! As the music progresses the girls on toes with tip toe slow movements followed by boys moving sway again to the sides! Then again girls moving in crossing one another in rhythmic dance patterns! Charismatic thats what ballet is all about!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran View Post
    I mean, it all makes sense to me...
    Really? To me it looks like English but it must be some kind of code that only super smart cats like you can understand. LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome View Post
    Really? To me it looks like English but it must be some kind of code that only super smart cats like you can understand. LOL!
    You have to know your history of music, it really helps! See, Wolfie lived in 8th century Byzantium, eh, near an Indian temple in a house owned by Salieri (who lived then, too, though maybe their names were different, eh, I think) and Falco the pop singer was, eh, I think he was born then and eh, the movie Amadeus, etc...

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    Thanks for illuminating me, Kieran! Now I understand. I should start smoking hashish.
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    I also like the ballets in Idomeneo.

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    Mozart world is certainly wonderfull and entertaining splendour!

    http://youtu.be/ysoLVfY4glk

    Funny their steps correspond with the music!!!
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    So salieri wrote a ballet version for mozart?

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    Sah dha pa ni sa (4)
    ha ha ho
    Unge' Romer'
    unge'
    Aneku miscta admire touch'
    When kepno enzisch endashtat'
    Enzi p'no cantito ezus season of treason' etit'
    frau este' stagnon edut' eto
    Zte' dested' look' e'freud'
    ze' dra' hershday spe' still morning'
    ve spe' never esteen
    raiste rise' neuvane'zen'
    estuka' Constanzine' i love'
    izane' sme' eszyo' ne'
    enzyo' n' ve' to'
    Spence' zyone' ve' kom

    khilipa khilipa khilipa(2)

    unge romer'
    dancin under'
    este' unst' Non'
    edes vel' estrangen
    en' eva' raiste' et'

    frau' unge romer'
    cantidi unde' nau'
    antizisch nau'swagan'
    Unge' romer'
    denau' te' ungwi' svhi'
    augustus' morga'
    ermuilan nua pagare'
    edmun' te ela chita'
    to yamu dvita dya chetya
    ermo kom esipha'
    et mu gadre se' aloney'
    ema' gadri' sen' azo'
    rahste' stro' ze martino'
    herr ermuile' zan'
    ez' ro uilane' bizhyoni kom
    se ustre undo' enmony ke'

    izane' sme' eszyo' kom
    enzyo' n' ve' ke'
    Spence' zyone' ve' ne'

    khilipa khilipa khilipa

    unge romer'(3)
    ha, ha, ho
    unge'

    unge' romer'
    cantizi' on my mind'
    dinasti steund' est' euf' lov'
    he nau de' ef kom
    regnada esh' mank' est'
    en moment' se microphone nside'
    an' est price istil divine'
    never stop isht olses
    rise n' fantastik voyage'

    khilipa khilipa khilipa
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    Interesting this, because just the other day I saw Salieri in Homeland, a TV show. So...Salieri works for the CIA? So, Wolfie was put down by the CIA? It's making me cry just thinking about it...

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    F.murray abraham seems like a padre of a church! So you are telling me just as i had seen in my memories that count orsini rosenberg came into the byzantine opera scene like a electronic particles coarse appearance and smiled at me! So were some person not even on the internet but still their words appeared on the forums!!!, likewise falco johannes holzel died many years back but still his music videos appeared from nowhere on the internet!

    Also i want to correct my earlier said sentence...

    "What if the ballet in 800 a.d. byzantine era was performed on stage shows. Perhaps herr mozart ballet version was as is known play 'marriage of figaro' is infact junge romer itself. So count orsini rosenberg suggests that there are too many notes in the medley. And junge romer music is ballet music only."
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellbottom View Post
    F.murray abraham seems like a padre of a church!
    Who's F. Murray Abraham?
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    Earlier you thought that gary oldman had played the role of antonio salieri in movie amadeus, i also believed it and had even checked it at some website. But infact F. murray abraham had played the role of antonio salieri in amadeus movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellbottom View Post
    Earlier you thought that gary oldman had played the role of antonio salieri in movie amadeus, i also believed it and had even checked it at some website. But infact F. murray abraham had played the role of antonio salieri in amadeus movie.
    I think it was Gary Oldman who played that role back in the 10th century...hence the confusion.
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