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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmathuln View Post
    Live in Rotterdam (RphO) in 2018 Mahler 8 with Seguin sounded really great, very fresh. But, frankly, the first Mahler 8 that doesn't sound great live is still about to be performed. Pity that they didn't release the Rotterdam version, it was recorded for radio broadcast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    Another instance where I have the CDs from a twofer with the same cover art. (I also have two single discs of the Preludes.) I'm not set up for multi-channel, and while I have an Oppo Blu-ray player, most of my listening is done through streaming my CD or better quality hard drive based library. Does anyone think I should purchase it again?
    I also do not have a multi channel setup.
    I figured out a way to rip the hi-res audio from these BluRay Audio discs to FLAC files without scaling them down; 192k remains 192k. The audio quality, be it on headphones, earbuds, or very good quality loudspeakers is well worth it in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    Another instance where I have the CDs from a twofer with the same cover art. (I also have two single discs of the Preludes.) I'm not set up for multi-channel, and while I have an Oppo Blu-ray player, most of my listening is done through streaming my CD or better quality hard drive based library. Does anyone think I should purchase it again?
    I asked DG if the Kleiber collection, re-issued on Blu Ray, did contain the full original uncompressed master recording, ie really improved sound material. I never got an answer, which probably says enough. I guess you won't get a much better sound quality, if any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmathuln View Post
    Jan 17, 2020, release for USA Amazon:
    http://www.amazon.com/Mahler-Yannick...dp/B07ZW9PYMR/

    If anyone finds sound clips, please post them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NLAdriaan View Post
    I asked DG if the Kleiber collection, re-issued on Blu Ray, did contain the full original uncompressed master recording, ie really improved sound material. I never got an answer, which probably says enough. I guess you won't get a much better sound quality, if any.
    That's nor really fair, have you any idea how many mail's they received during a day?
    So, info provided by their website should do as do the press releases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerx View Post
    That's nor really fair, have you any idea how many mail's they received during a day?
    So, info provided by their website should do as do the press releases.
    So, if the website says nothing about the quality of a re-issued master on blu ray and you get no answer to a direct e-mail, even after many months, we should just assume a re-issue on blu-ray has a truly improved sound, and is not just a marketing tool of issuing exactly the same digital information on DVD as you already have on the latest CD?

    You have a great amount of trust in the integrity of the record business!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmathuln View Post
    I also do not have a multi channel setup.
    I figured out a way to rip the hi-res audio from these BluRay Audio discs to FLAC files without scaling them down; 192k remains 192k. The audio quality, be it on headphones, earbuds, or very good quality loudspeakers is well worth it in my opinion.
    I've ripped about 450 SACDs, and sometimes the improvement is apparent (compared with the redbook layer). On the other hand, right now I have six Blu-Ray audio discs and no Blu-Ray computer drive. I just can't justify it.
    Last edited by jegreenwood; Dec-04-2019 at 14:56.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NLAdriaan View Post
    So, if the website says nothing about the quality of a re-issued master on blu ray and you get no answer to a direct e-mail, even after many months, we should just assume a re-issue on blu-ray has a truly improved sound, and is not just a marketing tool of issuing exactly the same digital information on DVD as you already have on the latest CD?

    You have a great amount of trust in the integrity of the record business!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    I've ripped about 450 SACDs, and sometimes the improvement is apparent (compared with the redbook layer). On the other hand, right now I have six Blu-Ray audio discs and no Blu-Ray computer drive. I just can't justify it.
    Most of the time when you rip an SACD you are getting the same master as the last issued red book CD of the recording. Only the hi-res CD layer and the multi-channel SACD layer will have anything different. And unless you are one of those who could use either an adequate Oppo player, or some Play Stations, to get to those layers then all you can possibly get to ripping the SACD on a computer drive is that red book CD layer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NLAdriaan View Post
    I asked DG if the Kleiber collection, re-issued on Blu Ray, did contain the full original uncompressed master recording, ie really improved sound material. I never got an answer, which probably says enough. I guess you won't get a much better sound quality, if any.
    The last issue of the Kleiber complete DG recordings that included a BluRay audio disc had very old digital masters.
    Recently Die Fledermaus was issue by itself in 192K remaster, much more worthy of the original recording IMHO.

    I am not at all happy with the Der Freischütz that came n that BRA disc - I sure hope it gets a new treatment like they recently gave Die Fledermaus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rmathuln View Post
    Most of the time when you rip an SACD you are getting the same master as the last issued red book CD of the recording. Only the hi-res CD layer and the multi-channel SACD layer will have anything different. And unless you are one of those who could use either an adequate Oppo player, or some Play Stations, to get to those layers then all you can possibly get to ripping the SACD on a computer drive is that red book CD layer.
    I used both. (Additional characters)

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    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    This is a great set - I've had it on a French Sony issue for a long time, and it's among my favorite sets. I hope that Sony/BMG doesn't screw up the sound.

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    >^^^^^^^
    Is this the same set?

    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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