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    Default Naxos fans...unite!

    When I first started listening to/collecting classical records in high school, Naxos made it easy for me. Inexpensive but quality recordings. It really opened me up to so much music, but in a way that was financially possible.

    So, I have a soft spot for Naxos. It's been there since the beginning for me, and I certainly feel a loyalty for the company. It's been exciting to watch them grow into what is, probably, the biggest classical label in the world. They have come a long way from their early recordings of basic repertoire with the Slovaks to putting out world-class recording after world-class recording today.

    And the scope of repertoire they present is just unbeatable.

    I own more Naxos recordings than any other label. They still make it very easy to hear good music at a very reasonable price.

    Anyone else a fan?
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    Definitely.. Naxos is such a lifesaver for us economically challenged music fans and students..
    The amount of stuff they have and their different series really make them probably my favorite classical label..
    Go Naxos!
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    I enjoy Naxos recordings. They offer, but not always, good, all-around performances of repertoire that you otherwise would never hear done. I have been impressed with much of their work.

    They do, however, offer some higher-end recordings like the box set of Langgaard on the Dacapo label, which is a subsidiary of Naxos and on the Phoenix Edition label, which has a great set of Prokofiev recordings with Kitajenko available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirror Image View Post
    I enjoy Naxos recordings. They offer, but not always, good, all-around performances...
    That can be said of any label, including Naxos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapkaara View Post
    That can be said of any label, including Naxos.
    This seems to happen the most with Naxos though, because some of the orchestras that play on their label aren't always that great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirror Image View Post
    This seems to happen the most with Naxos though, because some of the orchestras that play on their label aren't always that great.
    I'd tend to disagree. At least nowadays Naxos utilizes many great orchestras that may not have the brand name like Chicago Symphony or something like that. Notwithstanding, I cannot think of any recent Naxos discs where the playing was less than good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapkaara View Post
    I'd tend to disagree. At least nowadays Naxos utilizes many great orchestras that may not have the brand name like Chicago Symphony or something like that. Notwithstanding, I cannot think of any recent Naxos discs where the playing was less than good.
    I'm not talking about brand names. I'm talking about superior orchestras. So what you're telling me is an orchestra like the National Orchestra of Ukraine, for example, plays better than the Vienna Philharmonic or the Royal Concertgebouw? I don't think so.

    As I stated, Naxos is a great label, but can't compete with the frontrunners represented on EMI, Decca, Philips, or even Telarc, but I love what Naxos do even if I find some performances less than adequate.
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    I don't recall saying or implying that the National Orchestra of Ukraine, for example, is better than the Vienna Phil or anything along those lines. But it is still a very good, perhaps world class orchestra.

    My point is: Naxos generally does not record with the biggest "brand name" orchestras like CSO, Berliner Philharmoniker, LA Phil, etc. And these orchestra are brand name for a reason: they are the best in the world. But orchestras can still be very good if not world class and still come from places like Ukraine, or Bournemouth, etc.

    So, just because Naxos does not have the same access to the world's best orchestras like Deutsche Grammaphon, that still does not mean their product is inherently lesser. Thus, it should not be held against them.
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    I like Naxos for all the above reasons. You may find this a trivial aspect, but I also like the consistency of the package. One look at a Naxos CD and you know what it is. There is usually some nice, but understated piece of art on a white background and very readable succinct copy lettering. I have detected a slight change in the visual format lately, but I hope this is not going to be a trend.

    Some complain of less than stellar musicianship, but after all these years of being a classical fan, I'm still very much into the composers and less into the interpreters. I have heard Jeno Jando put down in some forums, but to me he is an non-intrusive interpreter. When he plays, I don't hear Jando. I hear Beethoven.

    Naxos has also been able to make orchestras that I have heard live sound better than they do, if that makes any sense.

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    Jando is a great pianist and I agree with you about is "non intrusive" playing.

    I think most legitimate complaints about Naxos come from when it was a budding label in the late 1980s. A lot of second-rate Eastern European orchestras and often muddy sound. But they have steadily gone up and up over the years in terms of everything: quality sound, quality repertoire, quality orchestras, etc. It may not be THE BEST, but it is still quality and more than worth the budget price.

    I, too, like the simplicity and consistancy of their packaging. I'm always curious to see what artwork they will use to "represent" the spirit of the recording. Sometimes, I have bought recordings of something I have never heard for the artwork alone hoping there is some sort of connection to the music. I have had many pleasant surprises that way!
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    Naxos has an accessible web presence, which I often appreciate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vavaving View Post
    Naxos has an accessible web presence, which I often appreciate.
    Yeah, their site is great. I always look forward to the first of the month to see what their new releases will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapkaara View Post
    I don't recall saying or implying that the National Orchestra of Ukraine, for example, is better than the Vienna Phil or anything along those lines. But it is still a very good, perhaps world class orchestra.

    My point is: Naxos generally does not record with the biggest "brand name" orchestras like CSO, Berliner Philharmoniker, LA Phil, etc. And these orchestra are brand name for a reason: they are the best in the world. But orchestras can still be very good if not world class and still come from places like Ukraine, or Bournemouth, etc.

    So, just because Naxos does not have the same access to the world's best orchestras like Deutsche Grammaphon, that still does not mean their product is inherently lesser. Thus, it should not be held against them.
    I think you're misunderstanding me here, but I think it's important for people to realize Naxos are a budget label. Yes, they have produced some high quality performances from good orchestras, but the demand for their product is a lot less than say EMI, Decca, or Philips. How many times do you hear a collector mention the Naxos name? If you're not around collectors then you have no idea what I'm talking about.

    I'm a collector, which may not mean that much to you, but I can tell you that Naxos recordings are not that in high demand. They also aren't the first ones to go out-of-print either.

    I never said Naxos was a bad label. I like and enjoy many of their recordings, but from a pure collecting standpoint they're not on the top of many people's lists, including mine.

    That's all I'm saying. Take it or leave it. I have met many collectors and they all are after what I'm after, which are the hard to find recordings on the major labels, because major labels don't keep things in-print that long and they become much more valuable.

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    I'm a collecter too, MI, and Naxos is a very big part of my library of discs. And if you meet collectors who have never heard of what is probably the biggest classical label nowadays that wins a few Grammy awards every year for the past several years, maybe they should branch out a little.

    If you are only looking to collect rarer, out of print discs than maybe Naxos isn't for you. But if you are someone like me, who likes discovering new music of a high quality at a reletively budget price, than a label like Naxos is wonderful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapkaara View Post
    I'm a collecter too, MI, and Naxos is a very big part of my library of discs. And if you meet collectors who have never heard of what is probably the biggest classical label nowadays that wins a few Grammy awards every year for the past several years, maybe they should branch out a little.

    If you are only looking to collect rarer, out of print discs than maybe Naxos isn't for you. But if you are someone like me, who likes discovering new music of a high quality at a reletively budget price, than a label like Naxos is wonderful.
    Perhaps they should, but I'm going by what's in demand, Tapkaara and Naxos isn't in-demand from a collecting standpoint.

    Let me tell what is in-demand: Karajan, Bernstein, Kubelik, Metropolis, Tennstedt, Jarvi, Colin Davis, Boult, Barbirolli, Handley, Thomson, Hickox, Beecham, Abbado, etc.

    These conductors' recordings are in-demand. They sell. No matter if you're starting to build a classical collection or not, they sell.

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