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    I recently acquired a beautiful Wakely & Wheeler Silver bowl with the words “London” “Parsifal” and “Juni 1911” engraved under each of the lion/serpent handles. The sterling silver date stamp is from 1910. From what I could find Parsifal was a Richard Wagner opera performed in Bayreuth Germany from 1883-1914. It does not seem that the opera was performed in London until 1914 due copyright restrictions so I don’t know why that would be engraved with a 1911 date. Can anyone out there help me with this mystery. Thanks!


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    Wagner did not invent 'Parsifal'.

    http://www.missgien.net/arthurian/legend4.html

    Your bowl may be related to a non-Wagnerian Parsifal event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilltroll72 View Post
    Wagner did not invent 'Parsifal'.
    Even so, Wagner was the first (at least to my knowledge) to use the spelling "Parsifal" rather than the "Parzival" of Wolfram von Eschenbach's original. In fact, Wagner was virtually the first person after Wolfram to make use of the Parsifal legend to any noteworthy extent, and nearly all use of it after Wagner was undeniably Wagner-related. It seems unlikely to me that the bowl is not in some way related to Wagner.
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    I agree that the Parsifal spelling implies Wagner.

    According to this website http://www.925-1000.com:

    Lion - British sterling .925 purity
    Uncrowned leopard - London, 1822-present
    p - Made in 1910

    Perhaps a gift to commemorate somebody's pilgrimage to Bayreuth.
    Last edited by Couchie; Oct-04-2013 at 04:43.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cguidi View Post
    Can anyone out there help me with this mystery?
    ...das ist Karfreitagszauber, Herr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reichstag aus LICHT View Post
    ...das ist Karfreitagszauber, Herr.
    Wer ist Karfreitagszauber, Herr . . . . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by cguidi View Post
    Wer ist Karfreitagszauber, Herr . . . . . .
    It's a quote from Parsifal, Act III. Our hero tells the hermit, Gurnemanz, that he has never seen the woods so beautiful, nor had the flowers smelled so sweet; it is as if they're speaking to him. Gurnemanz has the explanation: "Das ist Karfreitagszauber, Herr" - "That is Good Friday magic, Sir".

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