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    There is alot of discussion on these pages about certain recordings being far superior to others. Now as a fairly new listener my question is this. Is it better to listen to any recording of a piece of music or try and hunt down particular recordings? I get alot of my music from the library and when I was younger I collected a bi weekly magazine called the Classical Collection with free CD are these recordings of poor qulaity? I know some of the CD's from the library are recommended in my Guide to Classical music book but what if I can't get a recommended recording of a piece of music? Do I forget it and look for something else?

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    No, you ask people for help. The important thing is, to always listen to "Well-played" and "well-recorded" music. As a beginner, you will be hearing lots of pieces for the first time, and the first time is very important, because it tends to make an ever-lasting impression on you, therefore it is Crucial to make the "right" choices when listening to CDs. If you simply can't go through the process of cd hunting (due to your inexperience), that's no big deal, you can always come ask me, i have a huge collection of both digital music and CDs. I have a ton of experience under my belt too, I can perhaps point to you to the right recording to buy/listen/download, or simply give you something to listen to (via file-sharing_, of course all of this is not meant to promote "file-sharing", which is not exactly legal, but to help you get started, when you know what you want, you'll know which cds to buy.

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    I used to get that Classical Collection part work and still have most of them. One of them was Smetana with parts of Ma Vlast on it. I loved this and wanted a complete copy so I looked in magazines and shops then found a recommendation in BBC Music mag and spent a few years hunting that particular version down. Fabulous piece!
    And all those moments are soon lost,like tears in the rain•••

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    i had great fun finding things out for myself. music is easier to access nowadays, so follow some of gustav's advice and ask us.

    i knew for the first that my recorded listening was in two categories -
    a) to learn the music
    b) to determine how i really liked to hear it

    when in 'a' it was not really important who performed the music. much of how i learned was on AM radio (met opera/toscanini rebroadcasts/the 'music 'til dawn' series, and nobody sounds superb on that medium.

    check our public library if one is nearby. in jr high i picked up some favorites there.

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    I`m hoping to find an alternative version of Bach`s G0ldberg variations. The Glenn Gould disk I have annoys me because of all the noises the player makes. I admire his talent as a virtuoso pianist but wish he`d kept quiet! Who else has recorded this woork?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclopus View Post
    I`m hoping to find an alternative version of Bach`s G0ldberg variations. The Glenn Gould disk I have annoys me because of all the noises the player makes. I admire his talent as a virtuoso pianist but wish he`d kept quiet! Who else has recorded this woork?
    which version is that? is that the earlier one? The one i have, the later one, there is hardly any noise, and the tempo is more moderate.

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    Thanks Gustav, I really appreciate the help and advice.

    At the moment I am exploring Symphonies and Concerto's. I already have a few favourites. Beethoven's 7th and 5th Symphonies. Mendelssohn 3rd and 5th Symphonies and his Violin Concerto. Saint Saens' Organ Symphony. Is there any conductor or any orchestra who I should be looking for who are generally very good or do they tend to fluctuate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustav View Post
    which version is that? is that the earlier one? The one i have, the later one, there is hardly any noise, and the tempo is more moderate.
    Its the later one, on Sony. Cant bear it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclopus View Post
    Its the later one, on Sony. Cant bear it!
    I think i made a mistake somewhere, the one i had was the 1955 one. If you can't stand his humming, and think that interferes with your enjoyment of this music, then you must get this:
    http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Goldberg-...6642338&sr=8-3

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    Quote Originally Posted by squidgy View Post
    Thanks Gustav, I really appreciate the help and advice.

    At the moment I am exploring Symphonies and Concerto's. I already have a few favourites. Beethoven's 7th and 5th Symphonies. Mendelssohn 3rd and 5th Symphonies and his Violin Concerto. Saint Saens' Organ Symphony. Is there any conductor or any orchestra who I should be looking for who are generally very good or do they tend to fluctuate?
    for beethoven, i would gladly recommend Kleiber and Karajan. You must hear Kleiber's Beethoven 4th/6th/7th symphony with Bavarian state orchestra. Especially the 4th, which i have probably listened to a million times, and every time is as fresh and exciting and full of energy as the first time.



    I have heard some Mendelssohn, but still haven't found my favourite intepretation yet, maybe someone out there can help me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustav View Post
    No, you ask people for help. The important thing is, to always listen to "Well-played" and "well-recorded" music. As a beginner, you will be hearing lots of pieces for the first time, and the first time is very important, because it tends to make an ever-lasting impression on you.
    Yeah that is the truth the first version i heard of don giovanni was on the amadeus soundtrack so the commandatore scene should be as good as it when i get a cd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustav View Post
    I think i made a mistake somewhere, the one i had was the 1955 one. If you can't stand his humming, and think that interferes with your enjoyment of this music, then you must get this:
    http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Goldberg-...6642338&sr=8-3
    Hmmm 1955 is stretching it a bit(11 years before I was born!)
    I think I'll hunt down that Murray Perrahia disk!
    And all those moments are soon lost,like tears in the rain•••

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    To enjoy new music you really should listen to the 'pop' of classical music, Obvious choices are 1812; Beethoven's 5th, 9th, Mozart 40 etc. etc. all the 'cliched' classical music. It is popular for a reason, it is extremely melodic or memorable for other reasons (Movies, a recognizable Rhythm (Beethoven 5), or canons). I wouldn't, for example, listen to the Mozart or Beethoven Quartets, Wagner's Ring cycle, or Schoenbergs Peirrot Lunaire. Certainly avoid the more experimental 20th century music for it isolates and excludes new listeners - on average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclopus View Post
    Hmmm 1955 is stretching it a bit(11 years before I was born!)
    I think I'll hunt down that Murray Perrahia disk!
    uuuh, i think you should get the one in the link, it might have been from 1955, but it sure doesn't SOUND like 1955. Trust me, if i post a link, recommended an recording, than it is definitely worth checking out, if not, that's your loss.

    and i'm sure Perrahia is a competent pianist, but when it comes to the music of Bach, Gould's recording weren't just good, there were special.

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