View Poll Results: How do you consume Tristan und Isolde?

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  • I listen to it

    14 51.85%
  • I watch it

    6 22.22%
  • I drink it

    2 7.41%
  • I lie in it

    2 7.41%
  • I worship it

    0 0%
  • I eat it

    1 3.70%
  • I make love to it

    3 11.11%
  • I offer it my soul

    5 18.52%
  • I kiss it

    1 3.70%
  • I don't consume it, it consumes me

    8 29.63%
  • All of the above

    2 7.41%
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    Default How do you consume Tristan und Isolde?

    How do you consume Tristan und Isolde?
    Doch dieses Wörtlein: und, -wär' es zerstört,
    wie anders als mit Isoldes eignem Leben wär' Tristan der Tod gegeben?

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    Actually I'm not that keen on it as a whole, although it has some wonderful moments.
    Natalie

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamascarlatti View Post
    Actually I'm not that keen on it as a whole, although it has some wonderful moments.
    My god! Are you chaste?!
    Doch dieses Wörtlein: und, -wär' es zerstört,
    wie anders als mit Isoldes eignem Leben wär' Tristan der Tod gegeben?

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    Wonderful moments:

    1. The Prelude
    2. The Liebestod
    3. Everything inbetween
    Doch dieses Wörtlein: und, -wär' es zerstört,
    wie anders als mit Isoldes eignem Leben wär' Tristan der Tod gegeben?

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    Easier to watch than to listen to as a whole. The Oliver Py production will do for me on DVD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yashin View Post
    The Oliver Py production will do for me on DVD
    A curse on your family. Get out of my thread. Heathen witch!
    Doch dieses Wörtlein: und, -wär' es zerstört,
    wie anders als mit Isoldes eignem Leben wär' Tristan der Tod gegeben?

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    Like with all Wagner Imcan appreciate it in relative small doses. So I will listen to the bits I like best - eg the love duet and the Liebestod. Some of it is a bit of a bore. One just wishes Wagner had taken some tablets for verbal and scribal diarrhoea when he wrote the thing.
    As for worshipping it? Why should one worship a piece of music? I know Wagner demanded near worship from his adoring public but why turn something so secular into a religious rite?

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    For me, it’s an emotional experience, even an existential one.

    But another side of me watches it as a play where people come – as is continually being revealed over the course of all three acts – from a strongly defined place, make life-altering experiences that are precisely noted, in a language that is poetic and evocative but also very selective in the choice of words and imagery. Both Tristan and Isolde very much grow in these three acts, and it’s thrilling to watch.

    The emotional effect doesn’t come by chance; it’s the result of many very conscious creative decisions that make this great drama. It’s an inspired re-telling of an old myth, trusts the power of the material but also adds new angles and uses an innovative dramatic approach. It’s also an experiment trying to turn an abstract philosophical concept into a compelling story and bring it to life through the characters. For me, the experiment succeeds, spectacularly.

    I can only encourage to really read what is being said, preferably with only the libretto, in one’s own time. It’s an effort but one of the most rewarding ones that I’ve had in my life.

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    Preferably with the score as seeing it unfold is as sexy as the sounds. Deceptively simple, unbelievably vital - so, I read it, I crash out the chordal outlines on my crappy electronic keyboard, I listen

    Now, if only there was a recording where the principals would sing what is written
    Last edited by dgee; Dec-07-2013 at 12:16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yashin View Post
    The Oliver Py production will do for me on DVD
    There's a sentence you don't read every...err...well, ever.
    Are you Oliver Py?
    This space for rent.

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    How do you consume Tristan und Isolde?
    First I swallow Tristan, then I squeeze all the juices from Isolde and sip.

    Such is the life of dragon.

    I mean real one, Fafner was a poseur.

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    Relax on my couch. And listen to one complete act.
    Then maybe a break. Then another act.
    I'll only listen to recordings that have a complete act per disc.
    I can't abide act breaks in this opera.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

    "Life's a long song, but the tune ends too soon for us all." Ian Anderson lyric

    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet

    "Man does not live by bread alone......"

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    I have just bought Karajan's Tristan from 1952 Bayreuth. It's absolutely white hot! Modl is incredible. Sonic limitations but wholly recommended from what I've heard.

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    With some fava beans and a nice Chianti

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    I don't really worship at the shrine.

    An Act at a time maybe. I tend to get on with something else while Mark is droning on at the end of the second Act. I suppose I could just skip it, but that seems disrespectful.

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