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    Default ANOTHER Recording of the Ring...

    … to smuggle into the house past Frau Oreb.

    I heard excerpts from this and was impressed - ordered today. Conducted by Hartmut Haenchen.

    Anyone else heard it?

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    This one has been around for a while - It looks like a new issue on Hybrid SACD.
    It is also available on DVD - date given as 2006.
    Musically- not up to much based on what I have heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oreb View Post
    … to smuggle into the house past Frau Oreb.

    I heard excerpts from this and was impressed - ordered today. Conducted by Hartmut Haenchen.

    Anyone else heard it?

    51N1MWUtfBL.jpg
    Let us know what you think.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

    "Life's a long song, but the tune ends too soon for us all." Ian Anderson lyric

    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet

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    I enjoyed the DVD of the earlier cast.

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    Default This are completely different recordings

    Quote Originally Posted by Yashin View Post
    I enjoyed the DVD of the earlier cast.
    The DVD with the wonderful Audi/Haenchen Production (at the Moment to hear and to see for last time in Amsterdam till February) ist recorded 1999. The Audio SACD (the first recording in SACD)- we are speaking about- is completely another recording from 2005. This recording is very special because the singers are not wearing Mics, you hear the full staging in the recording and not in the wrong close sound as nearly all recordings. You feel the real theatre. This is by the way the first recording with the new edition and all realized remarks from Wagners Assistants. For me it is the best an the market. Finally the right Wagner-Tempi and the right articulation. Great. A german Newspaper discovered this recording just now and said: "Sensationell".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oreb View Post
    … to smuggle into the house past Frau Oreb.

    I heard excerpts from this and was impressed - ordered today. Conducted by Hartmut Haenchen.

    Anyone else heard it?

    51N1MWUtfBL.jpg
    Have you listened to this yet? Opinion?
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

    "Life's a long song, but the tune ends too soon for us all." Ian Anderson lyric

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    Hasn't arrived yet - I ordered it from Amazon US and they generally take 3 weeks to get things here (Amazon UK takes a week - go figure!)

    Hopefully it will be here so I can bask in it over Christmas - will certainly post my thoughts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    Have you listened to this yet? Opinion?
    The first 3 are on Spotify at the moment. Listened to Ziggy and a bit of Valkyrie and was very impressed - great feel for the band and singers (accurate and sensitive mostly and non-shouty - but you'll never get everyone being good all the time). His well-informed approach seems to have paid off and I felt like it was well integrated, dramatically legible and musical

    Will be listening to more soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oreb View Post
    Hasn't arrived yet - I ordered it from Amazon US and they generally take 3 weeks to get things here (Amazon UK takes a week - go figure!)

    Hopefully it will be here so I can bask in it over Christmas - will certainly post my thoughts
    Any thoughts on this set yet?
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    FRUSTRATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This arrived a couple of days after Christmas, since when my Real Life (i.e. the one that pays for my CDs) has been slightly crazy

    Hoping to have a proper listen over the coming weekend and will report back.

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    I think you will find the sound a bit weak. Since the orchestra is on-stage and the singers singing at various points around the orchestra. Watching the Audi Das Rheingold again recently reminded how the sound went 'in' and 'out'. Haenchen draws good playing from the orchestra but his speeds are pretty fast. For an SACD recording you might be expecting a more luxurious sound as i did.

    One frustration i have is that the whole Haenchen set is not available on itunes. All except Gotterdammerung is. Why do so many companies only post 3 parts on iTunes?

    I see the Weigle Frankfurter Ring is now available on box-set as opposed to individual. I think at $139 it is still expensive. The sound quality of these discs is superb but with Susan Bullock as Brunnhilde and lance Ryan as Siegfried there is something left to be desired. I love the Wotan Terje Stensvold and i also quite liked Weigle's slower speeds.

    So many choices now...I would say the Amsterdam Ring is nice on DVD but not as a cd choice even if with a slightly better cast
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    Having just seen Bullock in the Ring in Melbourne I am not n a hurry to own a copy of her singing! She struggled throughout.

    I considered the DVDs of the Haenchen set but ended up with the discs because the production looked ugly and most reviews I read thought that the CDs were vocally superior.

    Now if only I had time to do it justice!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yashin View Post
    I think you will find the sound a bit weak. Since the orchestra is on-stage and the singers singing at various points around the orchestra. Watching the Audi Das Rheingold again recently reminded how the sound went 'in' and 'out'. Haenchen draws good playing from the orchestra but his speeds are pretty fast. For an SACD recording you might be expecting a more luxurious sound as i did.

    One frustration i have is that the whole Haenchen set is not available on itunes. All except Gotterdammerung is. Why do so many companies only post 3 parts on iTunes?

    I see the Weigle Frankfurter Ring is now available on box-set as opposed to individual. I think at $139 it is still expensive. The sound quality of these discs is superb but with Susan Bullock as Brunnhilde and lance Ryan as Siegfried there is something left to be desired. I love the Wotan Terje Stensvold and i also quite liked Weigle's slower speeds.

    So many choices now...I would say the Amsterdam Ring is nice on DVD but not as a cd choice even if with a slightly better cast
    Actually, its 66 usd at importcds, 76 on Amazon.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

    "Life's a long song, but the tune ends too soon for us all." Ian Anderson lyric

    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet

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    Finally heard it.

    Verdict? Not by an means a first choice, but a solid performance that places the story front and centre. The singing is patchy but always very well acted - the emotions of the characters are clearly articulated and it makes for a compelling listen.

    I can hear what Yashin means: the voice/orchestra balance is definitely favouring the orchestra, but not consistently. It's a somewhat confusing listen in that sense.

    Overall, it is sitting somewhere in the middle of my Rings. Definitely better sung than either of the more heavily praised (or promoted) Thielemann's and to my ears more dramatic than the Karajan - but not a patch musically on the Bohm, Solti, Goodalls.

    For those like me who find it hard to resist checking out a set, I think you'll be satisfied with this one, but not thrilled.

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    Thanks a lot for the review Oreb. Much appreciated.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

    "Life's a long song, but the tune ends too soon for us all." Ian Anderson lyric

    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet

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