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    I was listening to Bernstein's latter-day take on Mahler 6 earlier today, and I started thinking about other great Mahlerian conductors - Jascha Horenstein in particular. It's too bad, thought I, that some of Horenstein's Mahler recordings are of lesser quality, not in terms of his conducting but of the recording itself and/or the less-than-world-class orchestra he may have been working with.

    This in turn made me think it's too bad that Horenstein never recorded a complete set of Mahler's symphonies. (At least I don't think he did; I don't believe he ever recorded the 2nd or the 5th.) Along with Bernstein's, Kubelik's, and one or two others, it could have been one of the great one-conductor Mahler sets.

    Then I remembered that Karajan recorded all of Sibelius' symphonies except the 3rd. I don't know why this is, but it does seem unfortunate that he didn't complete the cycle.

    So I was thinking: what recordings never took place that you wish had taken place? (I've provided a couple of possibles, but don't limit it to that kind of example - you might also wish for something like more modern technology to record Furtwängler or Toscanini, or something like that.)
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    I guess I don't mind so much that Furtwangler or Toscanini didn't live to record a full stereo Beethoven Cycle in hi-fidelity because at least we've got recordings from them.

    I wish Emil Gilels would have finished his Beethoven Piano Sonatas Cycle.

    I wish Charles Munch would have recorded Brahms Symphony 3, because his 1, 2 & 4 are so excellent.

    Glenn Gould was wanting to move into conducting before he died. I'd have loved to have heard what he would have done with something like a Mahler Symphony.

    There's many, many others...

    Editing: I had Charles Munch's Brahms mixed up...it was Symphony 3 he didn't record...not 2.
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    Klemperer never recorded Mahler´s 6th - I´ve heard rumours that there should be an early performance in the archives of the Hungarian Radio, however. It seems a bit unlikely though, that so many years with a free market should pass without it being released ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by realdealblues View Post
    I wish Emil Gilels would have finished his Beethoven Piano Sonatas Cycle.

    I wish Charles Munch would have recorded Brahms Symphony 2, because his 1, 3 & 4 are so excellent.
    Oooh, good call on the Gilels - excellent example. Not that I necessarily need another complete cycle - or do I?

    I wasn't aware of the "missing" Brahms 2 from Munch. Another good one.

    Glenn Gould was wanting to move into conducting before he died. I'd have loved to have heard what he would have done with something like a Mahler Symphony.
    Could have been ... interesting!
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    Speaking of Gould, I'm sorry not to have at least one recording of the Diabelli Variations from him. I understand he performed them live a number of times, so the lack of a recording really stings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudonim View Post

    I wasn't aware of the "missing" Brahms 2 from Munch. Another good one.
    Whoops...also just realized it was Brahms 3...not 2.

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    Furtwangler in stereo. He just barely missed it.

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    Further speaking of Gould, there is the Grieg concerto that never was.

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    A Stokowski Ring Cycle would have been amazing.

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    Lazar Berman playing Beethoven's Hammerklavier Sonata.

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    Klemperer RING, Tristan, Meister, etc
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    One that got to the rehearsal stage in the studio, Carlos Kleiber and Michelangeli, the VPO and the Beethoven Piano Concerto 5.
    After a running through a passage of the first movement, the concertmaster was heard asking Michelangeli "how was it for you Maestro?", at which point Kleiber put down his baton and walked out of the studio, went to the railway station and took a train for Munich never to return, - the recording was never made.
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    When the Soviet tanks rolled into Prague in 1968, many international artists refused to perform in Czechoslovakia.
    The recording of Meistersinger which EMI were setting up for Barbirolli was shelved because JB would not perform there. By the time it was re-scheduled, it had moved to East Germany and Karajan made it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blancrocher View Post
    Speaking of Gould, I'm sorry not to have at least one recording of the Diabelli Variations from him. I understand he performed them live a number of times, so the lack of a recording really stings.
    Yes. I notice Kempff never recorded them either. Strange!

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    I never know why Heifetz never recorded the Dvorak concerto. Did he play it?
    Would have been just up his street.

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