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    If you were to put together a mix cd of the most definitively Italian numbers, what would be included? I'm talking about arias (and duets, etc) that are just pure Italian in feel and mood through and through.
    Right now the only pieces I'm certain I want to include are:
    Un di Felice
    O Mio Babbino Caro
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    Casta diva!

    any mad scene

    all belcanto and most Verdi

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    That is a really difficult undertaking...

    I would restrict myself to soprano arias from the Giovane Scuola (aka verismo composers). This is a nice CD:

    Ah il suo nome - Lodoletta - Fleming - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y3UWNvLvGo
    Amor celeste ebrezza - Lorelely - Chiara - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSqx-zfB_JY
    Dio Pietoso - Risurrezione - Olivero - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrVtc8B5UBA
    Dir che ci sono al mondo - Zazà - Muzio - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgzFBZyksI4
    Dove son? - Lorelely - Mazzoleni - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2afz-RbVj0U
    Ebben?... Ne andrò lontana - La Wally - Freni - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt7b5R0qEUk
    Esser madre è un inferno - L'Arlesiana - Tassinari - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA8IHkf3-KY
    Ier dalla fabbrica a Triana - Conchita - Stella - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmjeFRZ6PfM
    io son l'umile ancella - Adriana Lecouvreur - Callas - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImawQV8c8yg
    La mamma morta - Andrea Chenier - Raisa - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F33cOYQW3c
    L'altra notte - Mefistofele - Caballé - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KPbQCqvc08
    Paolo, datemi pace - Francesca da Rimini - Adami - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sPpeKGAAn4
    Per amor di Gesù - Cecilia - Tebaldi - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uon4EnclxYY
    Poveri fiori - Adriana Lecouvreur - Scotto - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KHWcHLLn2w
    Qual fiamma avea nel guardo - Pagliacci - Moffo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr_XlHy5ahs
    Qual vergogna - Siberia - Caniglia - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXnyxVBrNNQ
    Un dì, ero piccina - Iris - Carteri - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km2TazZwHwE
    Voi lo sapete - Cavalleria Rusticana - Ponselle - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T50CKxa0Bs

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    Quote Originally Posted by schigolch View Post
    That is a really difficult undertaking...

    I would restrict myself to soprano arias from the Giovane Scuola (aka verismo composers). This is a nice CD:

    Ah il suo nome - Lodoletta - Fleming - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y3UWNvLvGo
    Amor celeste ebrezza - Lorelely - Chiara - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSqx-zfB_JY
    Dio Pietoso - Risurrezione - Olivero - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrVtc8B5UBA
    Dir che ci sono al mondo - Zazà - Muzio - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgzFBZyksI4
    Dove son? - Lorelely - Mazzoleni - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2afz-RbVj0U
    Ebben?... Ne andrò lontana - La Wally - Freni - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt7b5R0qEUk
    Esser madre è un inferno - L'Arlesiana - Tassinari - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA8IHkf3-KY
    Ier dalla fabbrica a Triana - Conchita - Stella - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmjeFRZ6PfM
    io son l'umile ancella - Adriana Lecouvreur - Callas - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImawQV8c8yg
    La mamma morta - Andrea Chenier - Raisa - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F33cOYQW3c
    L'altra notte - Mefistofele - Caballé - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KPbQCqvc08
    Paolo, datemi pace - Francesca da Rimini - Adami - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sPpeKGAAn4
    Per amor di Gesù - Cecilia - Tebaldi - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uon4EnclxYY
    Poveri fiori - Adriana Lecouvreur - Scotto - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KHWcHLLn2w
    Qual fiamma avea nel guardo - Pagliacci - Moffo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr_XlHy5ahs
    Qual vergogna - Siberia - Caniglia - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXnyxVBrNNQ
    Un dì, ero piccina - Iris - Carteri - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km2TazZwHwE
    Voi lo sapete - Cavalleria Rusticana - Ponselle - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T50CKxa0Bs
    Wow great list, and lots of effort put into it! Several that I'm unfamiliar with, checking them out now.
    -Ian

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    Schigolch, do you think that Catalani fits the company? As far as I understand, he was much in opposition to Giovane Scuola, not very keen on the ideas of realism and much closer to what we call late-romantic. In context of this thread, this would make him considerably more Germanic than the other composers from your list.

    As for my take, I think the essence of italianate quality is more with the singer than in the music. There are arias that I feel are as Italian as it gets when I hear them in particular performance, then I loose most of that feel when singers like Kaufmann are doing them.
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    You are right, I include Catalani in the list more in a chronological sense ("Loreley" is from 1890, and "La Wally" from 1892) than for an stylistic reason.

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    Maybe I'm making a fool out of myself but to me the gold standard is Recondita armonia. That is the italian aria.

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    This always makes me think that no composer that wasn't Italian could ever write a piece like this for sacred composition:


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    Babbino Caro
    Largo et Factotum
    La donna mobile
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

    "Life's a long song, but the tune ends too soon for us all." Ian Anderson lyric

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    Largo et Factotum
    What is this, some kind of new tempo marking for half French, half Italian musicians?
    Last edited by Aramis; Dec-19-2013 at 20:00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    Babbino Caro
    Largo et Factotum
    La donna mobile
    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis View Post
    What is this, some kind of new tempo marking for half French, half Italian musicians?
    I think it must refer to something long that can do anything. I thought we were discussing arias here.
    "No preluding! Piano pianissimo -- then all will be well." (Posted in the orchestra pit on August 13, 1876)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    Babbino Caro
    Largo et Factotum
    La donna mobile
    O mio babbino caro
    Largo al factotum
    La donna è mobile


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    Quote Originally Posted by schigolch View Post
    That is a really difficult undertaking...

    I would restrict myself to soprano arias from the Giovane Scuola (aka verismo composers). This is a nice CD:

    Ah il suo nome - Lodoletta - Fleming - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y3UWNvLvGo
    Amor celeste ebrezza - Lorelely - Chiara - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSqx-zfB_JY
    Dio Pietoso - Risurrezione - Olivero - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrVtc8B5UBA
    Dir che ci sono al mondo - Zazà - Muzio - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgzFBZyksI4
    Dove son? - Lorelely - Mazzoleni - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2afz-RbVj0U
    Ebben?... Ne andrò lontana - La Wally - Freni - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt7b5R0qEUk
    Esser madre è un inferno - L'Arlesiana - Tassinari - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA8IHkf3-KY
    Ier dalla fabbrica a Triana - Conchita - Stella - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmjeFRZ6PfM
    io son l'umile ancella - Adriana Lecouvreur - Callas - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImawQV8c8yg
    La mamma morta - Andrea Chenier - Raisa - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F33cOYQW3c
    L'altra notte - Mefistofele - Caballé - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KPbQCqvc08
    Paolo, datemi pace - Francesca da Rimini - Adami - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sPpeKGAAn4
    Per amor di Gesù - Cecilia - Tebaldi - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uon4EnclxYY
    Poveri fiori - Adriana Lecouvreur - Scotto - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KHWcHLLn2w
    Qual fiamma avea nel guardo - Pagliacci - Moffo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr_XlHy5ahs
    Qual vergogna - Siberia - Caniglia - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXnyxVBrNNQ
    Un dì, ero piccina - Iris - Carteri - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km2TazZwHwE
    Voi lo sapete - Cavalleria Rusticana - Ponselle - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T50CKxa0Bs
    Difficult undertaking especially since you are taking different sopranos for each aria (in some of those I would have taken an already used soprano ...).
    Anyway following you approach:
    Ferito! L'hanno ferito! - L'oracolo - Sutherland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74OTGvob3fg
    Son pochi fiori - L'amico Fritz - Favero - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECPMzB8mJ0
    Last edited by Bardamu; Dec-20-2013 at 14:12.

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    Yes, I would have too, especially Olivero singing the marvel thas is "Amor celeste ebrezza".

    I love "L'Oracolo" (I have even watch it staged, in Frankfurt) and Mafalda Favero.

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