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    My favourite Violetta is definitely Ileana Cotrubas. There is such a vulnerability in her voice. I also love Callas, De Los Angeles, Caballe and Moffo. But the Kleiber recording with Cotrubas, Domingo and Milnes will always be my favourite.

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    Any thoughts on Carteri/Monteux? I’ve read great things about it.

    I have three of the Callas’s (Resigno, Giulini, and Ghione) and Gheorgiu/Solti but was looking for another. Considering Cotrubas/Kleiber, Moffo/Previtali, Freni/Gardelli, and Carteri/Monteux.

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    Go for the Cotrubas/ Kleiber. - Sutherland /Bergonzi or the Virginia Zeani / Santi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmsianhorn View Post
    Any thoughts on Carteri/Monteux? I’ve read great things about it.

    I have three of the Callas’s (Resigno, Giulini, and Ghione) and Gheorgiu/Solti but was looking for another. Considering Cotrubas/Kleiber, Moffo/Previtali, Freni/Gardelli, and Carteri/Monteux.
    You have the best Violetta, and, I think, the three best of her recordings, albeit live and in variable sound. I also have them all, plus the Cetra studio set. My others are Cotrubas/Kleiber, De Los Angeles/Serafin and a live one with Stratas and Wunderlich under Patané, which I bought mainly for Wunderlich.

    The safest bet is probably Cotrubas/Kleiber but De Los Angeles is also an affecting Violetta and you may prefer Serafin's more central way with the score. I haven't heard the Carteri/Monteux, but it doesn't get a very good review in The Metropolitan Opera Guide to Recorded Opera and isn't even mentioned in Alan Jefferson's survey of the opera in Opera on Record.

    Callas in London is the one I most frequently listen to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsaraslondon View Post
    You have the best Violetta, and, I think, the three best of her recordings, albeit live and in variable sound. I also have them all, plus the Cetra studio set. My others are Cotrubas/Kleiber, De Los Angeles/Serafin and a live one with Stratas and Wunderlich under Patané, which I bought mainly for Wunderlich.

    The safest bet is probably Cotrubas/Kleiber but De Los Angeles is also an affecting Violetta and you may prefer Serafin's more central way with the score. I haven't heard the Carteri/Monteux, but it doesn't get a very good review in The Metropolitan Opera Guide to Recorded Opera and isn't even mentioned in Alan Jefferson's survey of the opera in Opera on Record.

    Callas in London is the one I most frequently listen to.
    I listened tonight to the Carteri/Monteux - the newest Sony remastering - and was blown away. I purchased it immediately. It is the best cast on record IMO. The first thing that jumped out at me was the sound quality. Very vivid and the mics well placed. I even like the sound better than the Kleiber. Carteri sings with a more beautiful tone than Cotrubas but just as much emotion. Cesare Valletti and Leonard Warren are superb in their roles, better than most any I have heard.

    Some claim that Monteux's conducting was too relaxed, but I found it to be detailed and full of color as well as sensitivity to just the right pacing. I actually find Kleiber's tempos a little too self-consciously pressing ahead. Solti did an excellent job in his Covent Garden recording, but the soloists I find to be too mechanically perfect in their roles. Not enough vulnerability for my taste. Too slick and perfect, particularly Gheorghiu.

    Moffo/Previtali was a huge disappointment. I liked the conducting, but Moffo was bland and Tucker just not good at all in this role, raw of tone and not at all romantic sounding. What a contrast with the honey-toned Valletti on the Monteux recording!

    Of course everyone should sample of their own, but I now recommend the Monteux without hesitation as the "modern sound" alternative to the Callas recordings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmsianhorn View Post
    I listened tonight to the Carteri/Monteux - the newest Sony remastering - and was blown away. I purchased it immediately. It is the best cast on record IMO. The first thing that jumped out at me was the sound quality. Very vivid and the mics well placed. I even like the sound better than the Kleiber. Carteri sings with a more beautiful tone than Cotrubas but just as much emotion. Cesare Valletti and Leonard Warren are superb in their roles, better than most any I have heard.

    Some claim that Monteux's conducting was too relaxed, but I found it to be detailed and full of color as well as sensitivity to just the right pacing. I actually find Kleiber's tempos a little too self-consciously pressing ahead. Solti did an excellent job in his Covent Garden recording, but the soloists I find to be too mechanically perfect in their roles. Not enough vulnerability for my taste. Too slick and perfect, particularly Gheorghiu.

    Moffo/Previtali was a huge disappointment. I liked the conducting, but Moffo was bland and Tucker just not good at all in this role, raw of tone and not at all romantic sounding. What a contrast with the honey-toned Valletti on the Monteux recording!

    Of course everyone should sample of their own, but I now recommend the Monteux without hesitation as the "modern sound" alternative to the Callas recordings.
    Interesting. Maybe I need to give the Monteux a try. London Green in the Metropolitan Guide (someone I often agree with) finds Monteux's conducting "debilitating" and dubs it the "slowest and dullest on records". As for Carteri, he says she "has the right instincts about playing Violetta, but her voice is in perilous condition: both steely and insecure. Act I is almost joyless and Sempre libera particularly effortful. In the second act, she confronts Leonard Warren's Germont with what sounds like heavy authority rather than delicate feeling."

    Such comments rather put me off, but you have reignited my interest.

    I agree that Kleiber's conducting can seem a little rushed and his interventionist approach rather draws attention to itself. On the other hand I think Gheorghiu the best thing about the Solti set. The conducting is what I find mechanical here, not Gheorghiu's deeply felt performance, which I actually saw on stage during the run of performances it was taken from.

    Moffo, as so often, sounds pretty but skates over the emotions of the role.
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    Alan Blythe, Gramophone, on the Carteri/Monteux:

    "You would be lucky indeed to hear today three principals with voices so appropriate to their roles and with the wherewithal as regards technique to fulfill all the exigent requirements their roles call for"

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    Finally got around to listening to Freni/Gardelli and it is fantastic! Freni's control and vocal color is beautifully poignant, and the Germont of Franco Bonisolli is thrilling. I rank this neck and neck with the Monteux and above the Kleiber in modern sound recordings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brahmsianhorn View Post
    Finally got around to listening to Freni/Gardelli and it is fantastic! Freni's control and vocal color is beautifully poignant, and the Germont of Franco Bonisolli is thrilling. I rank this neck and neck with the Monteux and above the Kleiber in modern sound recordings.
    I don't listen to Traviata that much compared to other Verdi, but when I do, the Freni and the Carteri are among the ones I listen to most. I spin the Gruberova/Shicoff pretty often too--a very interesting and different take on the title role, very intimate and hushed, and Zancanaro is a real treat as Germont.

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