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    Quote Originally Posted by Florestan View Post
    I saw Boris Godunov once many years ago and so am tempted to get a copy for my second opera after Fidelio, but it is a long one as I recall and for me to really appreciate an opera I need to get it on DVD with English subtitles and watch that through a number of times before the CD version is that meaningful. I do have a highlights CD, and as aggravating as that is (not having it all), it does show there are some fine singing parts in Boris Godunov. I don't know a lot of operas, attended maybe a dozen at most back about 30 years ago, and Boris is the one that stands out to me as having more substance. A good choice, but do also someday check out Fidelio.
    If you persevere with Boris Godunov I'm sure you'll be rewarded. I've got these & they're both good.





    I love reading about other people's methods of learning an opera. Mine is the other way round. I listen to the CD over and over until I'm familiar with it & only then watch the DVD.
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    Thumbs up Boris Abbado

    Just secured copy of the following:


    This is fantastic recording. Abbado uses an edition which is new to me. This edition is based on research undertaken by David Lloyd George and was published in 1975 by Oxford University Press. It incorporates Mussorgsky's orchestrations and is based on the 1872 revised version with some elements of the original 1869 version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arpeggio View Post
    Just secured copy of the following:


    This is fantastic recording. Abbado uses an edition which is new to me. This edition is based on research undertaken by David Lloyd George and was published in 1975 by Oxford University Press. It incorporates Mussorgsky's orchestrations and is based on the 1872 revised version with some elements of the original 1869 version.
    I have this recording. I don't know enough about editions to comment but it sounds great to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arpeggio View Post
    Just secured copy of the following:


    This is fantastic recording. Abbado uses an edition which is new to me. This edition is based on research undertaken by David Lloyd George and was published in 1975 by Oxford University Press. It incorporates Mussorgsky's orchestrations and is based on the 1872 revised version with some elements of the original 1869 version.
    You mean that they found research done by oldtime Labor Party leader and Prime Minister Lloyd George in 1975? I never knew he was even musically inclined.
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    For this opera I have the von Karajan and these two oldies - the 1952 Christoff/Gedda and the Golovanov (sp?).

    christoffboris.jpg

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    The reason I chose the Golovanov is because of the bonus tracks: Highlights of Mark Reizen as Boris!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sospiro View Post
    If you persevere with Boris Godunov I'm sure you'll be rewarded. I've got these & they're both good.

    I love reading about other people's methods of learning an opera. Mine is the other way round. I listen to the CD over and over until I'm familiar with it & only then watch the DVD.
    Thanks. My biggest problem for getting into another opera is time, particularly time for watching videos. Well it is next on my list anyway. I am still very much wrapped up in Fidelio. When I do move on to Boris, I will check out all the You Tube clips and see what ones I like before I go for a DVD.

    I must say the cover you posted with the blood filled helmet is quite the intense graphic, actually kind of repels me a bit, not that I am squeamish, but I don't really watch bloody imagery which I suspect is popular in the movies and perhaps on TV (for context, I have not gone to a movie or watched TV since 1989).
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    Red face David Lloyd-Jones

    Quote Originally Posted by Revenant View Post
    You mean that they found research done by oldtime Labor Party leader and Prime Minister Lloyd George in 1975? I never knew he was even musically inclined.
    My mistake. It was David Lloyd-Jones.
    Last edited by arpeggio; Feb-02-2014 at 04:28.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Florestan View Post
    Thanks. My biggest problem for getting into another opera is time, particularly time for watching videos. Well it is next on my list anyway. I am still very much wrapped up in Fidelio. When I do move on to Boris, I will check out all the You Tube clips and see what ones I like before I go for a DVD.
    Good plan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Florestan View Post
    I must say the cover you posted with the blood filled helmet is quite the intense graphic, actually kind of repels me a bit, not that I am squeamish, but I don't really watch bloody imagery which I suspect is popular in the movies and perhaps on TV (for context, I have not gone to a movie or watched TV since 1989).
    The blood filled helmet is symbolic. It's not gory.
    Ann

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    My favourite is Nesterenko/Ermler.

    I also have Cluytens, Karajan and Melik-Pashaev.
    Last edited by joen_cph; Feb-02-2014 at 09:04.

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    If I might insert just a couple of references to Boris dvds in this cd thread....

    I have these two: the 1990 Gergiev with Robert Lloyd (whose closeups suggest he is playing a toothless Boris, but recommended highly notwithstanding) and a very "traditional" 1954 Soviet era film by director Vera Stroyeva, which despite it's sanitized stodginess has the advantage of featuring one of the finest Russian tenors, Ivan Kozlovsky, as the Holy Fool.


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    Boris_Pirogov1.jpgBoris_Pirogov2.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by sospiro View Post
    The blood filled helmet is symbolic. It's not gory.
    Ah good. I didn't recall any gore from the 1980s when I attended Boris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sospiro View Post
    both these DVD's are not advisable because of their crappy productions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revenant View Post
    this one's a definately must see.

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    I was checking suggestions on this old thread because I want a new version (I have 4) and wanted opinions on the Gergiev. I have Karajan (not great), Rostropovich (good), Abbado (great) and Melik-Pashaev on Melodiya (best Rimsky version). This last one should be mentioned well above the Karajan if anyone wants the Rimsky-Korsakov edition. Ivan Petrov is glorious and the performance is way more idiomatic and Russian than Karajan's

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    Ok, I have convinced myself that I need a full copy of Boris Godunov on CD. So which is the best one to get, 1869 or 1872? It is clear that I cannot get the Gergeiv two-in-one set because it is $65 used online. The 1869 is shorter. Probably most sets are the 1872 though so my decision would be pretty simple based on supply.
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