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    Quote Originally Posted by 89Koechel View Post
    -> Bill Kasimer & DavidA - Thanks, and looks like there are two, very-DIFFERENT characterizations of what Richter achieved; i.e., Bill much-prefers the later Richter, and conversely, DavidA prefers the earlier one!
    I should tell you, though, that I don't know anyone else who prefers the later Richter recording. I know a number of people who aren't particularly fond of the earlier one, but that doesn't mean that they prefer the later. There was actually another Richter recording made between those two, but it's never been widely available outside of Japan. I heard it once and remember little about it, except that I culled it shortly afterwards.

    Thus, I suppose when we consider MODERN recordings, there's not a clear-cut favorite?
    Certainly not for work of the scope of the St. Matthew. But if you're looking for a modern instrument recording in good sound, you might consider Rilling's Hanssler recording or Solti's on Decca. Another one I like is Corboz's - I find it a bit tame, but the soloists are really fantastic.

    since WM and WF, of the oldest ones, deserve a place of their own?
    Yes, but I'd never recommend either to someone who doesn't already own several versions,

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    If anyone is interested in a cheap copy of Rilling's recording...

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bach-St-Mat...s/401679830940

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89Koechel View Post
    -> Bill Kasimer & DavidA - Thanks, and looks like there are two, very-DIFFERENT characterizations of what Richter achieved; i.e., Bill much-prefers the later Richter, and conversely, DavidA prefers the earlier one! It's a shame to hear that Ms. Topper was disappointing; from what I remember of her reputation, she usually rated high marks (although can't remember the sources of them). …. Thus, I suppose when we consider MODERN recordings, there's not a clear-cut favorite? … since WM and WF, of the oldest ones, deserve a place of their own?
    Topper us a bit plummy I must say. Baker is far the best singer

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    Koopman's last is my preferred recording but to me, Koopman is go-to in Bach anyhow, so I am certainly biased.

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    The one excelently conducted by Reginald Jacques, sung in English:
    https://music.apple.com/gb/album/bac...sion/500153963

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    My dessert island set.
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerx View Post

    My dessert island set.
    Not to take on a desert island but if you like the romantic approach it has some wonderful singing. The recording should be remastered, however.

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    Just thinking of the versions I have of what I consider one of the greatest of all works of music ever written:

    Bach St M Richter.jpg

    Version that introduced me to the work. Richter at his best in traditional version before he got too lugubrious

    Bach St M Karajan.jpg

    Romantic version of the work as Karajan used to conduct on Good Friday. Indulgence

    Bach St M Gardiner.jpg

    Superb singing but feel Gardiner just misses out on the spiritual dimension somewhat

    Bach St M Herreweghe.jpg

    Very fine first version from Herreweghe

    Bach St M Harnoncourt.jpg

    Harnoncourt puts a lifetimes experience into the work - might be the best all-round bet?

    Continued next post...........
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    Attachment 127896

    Jacobs brings usual insights in highly dramatic and controversially recorded version

    Attachment 127897

    One per part. I thought I would hate this but it really comes off with very brisk tempi and fabulous singing. Not the only way of doing it but must be heard.

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    My favourite is the one directed by Rudolf Lutz on the JS Bach Stiftung label. It was released in 2014. It has thrilling but rich choruses and arias. I especially love the opening chorus.

    But there's so many to choose from.
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    Thoughts on the latest Suzuki recording? Anybody heard it yet?

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    More traditional versions

    Bach St M Richter.jpg

    Bach St M Karajan.jpg

    Each has something to say about this great work, with no-one having the final word.
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    If the virus allows, I will be visiting Trevor Pinnock conducting the Concertgebouw orchestra in St. Matthews Passion coming Easter. I look forward to it. Pinnock never recorded the piece as far as I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NLAdriaan View Post
    If the virus allows, I will be visiting Trevor Pinnock conducting the Concertgebouw orchestra in St. Matthews Passion coming Easter. I look forward to it. Pinnock never recorded the piece as far as I know.
    Sounds extremely interesting. Hope it will not be cancelled.
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