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    Quote Originally Posted by i like music View Post
    My favorite St. Matthew's Passion is the one by Bach.
    I am afraid, that you will never find it.

    Every performance is an interpretation, and how do you know if it is as Bach wanted it?

    And even if you restrict yourself to read the score, you will - in your mind - hear your own interpretation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i like music View Post
    My favorite St. Matthew's Passion is the one by Bach.
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    The CPE Bach St Matthew Passion, which evolved over twenty years and at least six versions, is full of daddy's music. The arias are new and original, but a lot of the chorale settings and turba choruses are lifted wholesale from J.S. Bach's version (and St John Passion as well). Maybe he figured he couldn't do any better, so he might as well use the best!

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    i really like richter (1971 video on DG), gonnenwein (emi with hamari, crass among others), bernstein (in english), butt (ovpp). so many recordings but these are some that stand out.

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    Karl Richter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    Karl Richter.
    Though I would generally prefer Herreweghe or Koopman I do like his Mache dich, mein Herze, rein. Gardiner probably has the better opening movement:


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    I have that version of the St. Matthew Passion and I must admit I'm not so fond of it these days. The sound recording quality is rather harsh and doesn't come over well on my new hi-fi. Today I've been listening to Thomas Quasthoff singing Bach and writing about it on another board. I just love his version of "Mache dich mein Herze, rein". This sounds great with a Bluetooth device from the computer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Roa-5BV46f0

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountenanceAnglaise View Post
    I have that version of the St. Matthew Passion and I must admit I'm not so fond of it these days. The sound recording quality is rather harsh and doesn't come over well on my new hi-fi. Today I've been listening to Thomas Quasthoff singing Bach and writing about it on another board. I just love his version of "Mache dich mein Herze, rein". This sounds great with a Bluetooth device from the computer:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Roa-5BV46f0
    That is a nice performance, though I would have prefered a lower register singer, but it seems that the St Matthew Passion never can be performed perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Improbus View Post
    That is a nice performance, though I would have prefered a lower register singer, but it seems that the St Matthew Passion never can be performed perfectly.
    Do I understand that you are saying from all the recordings that are out there, you don't like one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    Do I understand that you are saying from all the recordings that are out there, you don't like one?
    I like several, but none is completely satisfactory to me. The work itself however is one of my favorites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Improbus View Post
    I like several, but none is completely satisfactory to me. The work itself however is one of my favorites.
    Okay, now I understand, thanks
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    I usually like some HIP Bach, but for the choral works and cantatas, Karl Richter and the Munich Bach Chior and Orchestra are the finest.

    It didn't hurt that Richter seemed to always get the finest German vocal soloists available.

    His Mass in B minor is for me, still unmatched!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    I usually like some HIP Bach, but for the choral works and cantatas, Karl Richter and the Munich Bach Chior and Orchestra are the finest.

    It didn't hurt that Richter seemed to always get the finest German vocal soloists available.

    His Mass in B minor is for me, still unmatched!
    Speaking of the mass in B minor, this is probably the greatest recording out there (and HIP as well).

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    It didn't hurt that Richter seemed to always get the finest German vocal soloists available.
    Hertha Töpper notwithstanding....

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    The versions I have:

    Richter (1958) - the best and most intense of the old school performances

    Gardiner 1 - Superb singing though it does in places seem a little rushed and lacks heart

    Herreweghe 1 - beautiful performance which conveys the spiritual element

    Harnoncourt - the last one - probably best all round.

    Jacobs - weird balances (deliberately - read the notes) but the most dramatic on disc.

    There is no perfect version of this piece (obviously). But any of the above will give satisfaction

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