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    I agree with DavidA, Abbado's Zauberflote is really magic.

    I'm wondering whether Jacobs will ever record Die Entfuehrung aus dem Serail....
    it's possibly the weaker, among Mozart great operas, in terms of the dramatic plot/staging (not in terms of the sheer beauty of the music, of course)
    Could it be a reason he hasn't yet considered it?
    I like the Solti performance:


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    The only thing I don't care for with Jacobs is he rushes things sometimes.
    I like Mozart to breath. There's a lot missed with his overly fast tempi, I feel.
    I much prefer slower to faster.
    But there's much to enjoy as well.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis View Post
    And what's untheatrical about it, for me Mozart operas from Jacobs cycle are as dramatically alive as it gets.
    I felt when listening to it that it didn't really evoke a performance onstage as well as some other recordings do, while the word that came to my mind to describe some of the singing was "instrumental." I think I'm just unused to "period" renditions of Mozart's operas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    I like the Solti analog Mozart operas very much. He's surprisingly good and more relaxed there.
    And the Haitink digital EMI operas are wonderful.
    The Solti Zauberflote was my first one. I found it excellent, though I listen to it much less than my other recordings. He is MUCH less driven than in Wagner. Although I think that one was digital.
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    Mozart is the only conductor who has successfully convinced me to listen to opera. And Jacobs' recordings are a real delight. I have his Magic Flute, Cosi fan tutte, Don Giovanni, La Clemenza di Tito, Idomeneo, and Le Nozze di Figaro. Apart from Klemperer's Magic Flute, these are all my favorite recordings of these operas - especially the Figaro. I still mean to complete my collection with the La Finte Giardiniera.

    Incidentally, I also am hoping he will record Die Entfuhrung.

    As an aside, I also have recordings of Mozart's last 4 symphonies by Jacobs, and they are excellent. Jacobs is exceptional with Mozart and with choral works (love his recording of Haydn's Seasons and Bach's Christmas Oratorio).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMike View Post
    Mozart is the only conductor who has successfully convinced me to listen to opera..
    I assume you also like Mozart the composer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMike View Post
    Mozart is the only conductor who has successfully convinced me to listen to opera. And Jacobs' recordings are a real delight. I have his Magic Flute, Cosi fan tutte, Don Giovanni, La Clemenza di Tito, Idomeneo, and Le Nozze di Figaro. Apart from Klemperer's Magic Flute, these are all my favorite recordings of these operas - especially the Figaro. I still mean to complete my collection with the La Finte Giardiniera.

    Incidentally, I also am hoping he will record Die Entfuhrung.

    As an aside, I also have recordings of Mozart's last 4 symphonies by Jacobs, and they are excellent. Jacobs is exceptional with Mozart and with choral works (love his recording of Haydn's Seasons and Bach's Christmas Oratorio).
    Well, there you go. I hate his Mozart symphonies. They're hard driven and overly punchy.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    I assume you also like Mozart the composer!
    No, this is Fred Mozart I am talking about, the illustrious conductor of operas!

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    Solti's Die Entführung aus dem Serail was my first exposure to this opera as well... and it is quite sound IMO... but after falling in love with Krips' Don Giovanni I had to have this...



    ... and what a cast of singers!

    Just recently I picked up William Christie's recording:



    I have yet to listen to this... but having long loved Christie's efforts... and looking at the cast... I expect great things.
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    Krips is wonderful. All his Mozart is.

    I have a soft spot for Beecham's Abduction as well.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

    "Life's a long song, but the tune ends too soon for us all." Ian Anderson lyric

    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet

    "Man does not live by bread alone......"

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    Quote Originally Posted by StlukesguildOhio View Post
    Solti's Die Entführung aus dem Serail was my first exposure to this opera as well... and it is quite sound IMO... but after falling in love with Krips' Don Giovanni I had to have this...



    ... and what a cast of singers!

    Wonderful. Excellent. Wonderful. . . Shopaholic Blair with delusions of operatic hypergrandiosity takes Amazon. . . again!- for more Mozart. Thanks for generous precis and post.

    Just recently I picked up William Christie's recording:



    I have yet to listen to this... but having long loved Christie's efforts... and looking at the cast... I expect great things.
    Wonderful. Excellent. Wonderful. . . This has the overwhelming efficacy of too much champagne on me; but in the best way!

    Shopaholic Blair with delusions of operatic hypergrandiosity takes Amazon. . . again!- for more Mozart. Thanks for generous precis and post.
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    Anyone familiar with any recordings of Idomeneo beyond those of Jacobs and Mackerras?



    Gardiner's looks quite tempting with the performances of Anthony Rolfe Johnson and Anne Sofie von Otter.

    This one also looks decidedly good:



    Leopold Simoneau and Sena Jurinac!

    And there is another version conducted by Fritz Busch that includes the addition of Birgit Nilssen.
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    Actually im not a huge fan of that opera. I have the Colin Davis recording from the Complete Mozart Edition and it has served me well. Very good , I think.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

    "Life's a long song, but the tune ends too soon for us all." Ian Anderson lyric

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    "Man does not live by bread alone......"

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    And what of La Clemenzia...? Beyond Jacobs all I have is Keilberth with the WDR Koln 1960-something...



    Considering my love for Magdalena Kozena, I should have picked up Mackerras' recording long ago...



    ... even if the cover once again (shades of Naive's Vivaldis) looks like an outtake from a cheesy fashion shoot.
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    Once again, I have the Davis and like it.

    The Kozena looks tempting though.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

    "Life's a long song, but the tune ends too soon for us all." Ian Anderson lyric

    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet

    "Man does not live by bread alone......"

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