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Thread: Ballet: Why is it frequent for little girls but not little boys?

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    Better news, I'm pleased to say, from the UK.....

    https://www.standard.co.uk/go/london...-a3451316.html
    Last edited by Marsilius; Jan-19-2018 at 13:44.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsilius View Post
    Better news, I'm pleased to say, from the UK.....

    https://www.standard.co.uk/go/london...-a3451316.html
    Great news, let's hope the rest off the world will follow.
    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
    "Mahatma Gandhi"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    Great news, let's hope the rest off the world will follow.
    Yes,I could not agree more!

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    Some anecdotal evidence... I saw the Royal Ballet Giselle at Covent Garden this afternoon (excellent, by the way) - and I'd hazard a guess that boys in the audience outnumbered the girls.

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    I think taking ballet classes is awesome especially for a boy.He is around lots of girls,all the girls are in an incredible shape and they think he is awesome because hi is the only guy around to partner them.The most important effect of being around girls is that boys will learn how to be friends with girls.I think it is hard for a lot of boys to have relationships with girls without some sexual component.Ballet will learn them how to act normal around around girls.The myth that ballet makes you gay is not based on reality.No such activity can suddenly turn you gay.Among all the male dancers I have met only several of them were gay.

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    So at a young age, i wanted to learn, though my dad, (he amounts to about 95% of my issues... i know) said "Ballet is for girls" to top things off, i was flexible, graceful, and such. i was also picked on by it. Get this, i come from a suburb of one of the top fifty largest cities in the world. (so being in a large city means nothing.)
    But, my mom knew my passion for what ever i was inclined to do as a child... again my dad would always rip apart my dreams and ambitions usually when it came to being creative. which in the end not everyone can live their dreams. because society is a monster to some.

    Though I was influenced to enjoy ballet from going to see the nutcracker through school at the local theatre. (we have two or three here... all pretty much in a mile radius of each other.)

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    and there's the thorny question of whether trans girls and women should be considered ballerinas or balletists. I think it's a valid reason to be concerned about how trans girls have all the physical advantages of a bio-male body which the biologically female body does not have. What their mental identity is doesn't affect that.

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    Yes,it is true not everyone can live their dreams.Ballet is a lifestyle,not a job.You can not do it for money,We dance because it is our passion.I wish you enjoy ballet performances at your theater

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    Quote Originally Posted by melaniehiscock View Post
    and there's the thorny question of whether trans girls and women should be considered ballerinas or balletists. I think it's a valid reason to be concerned about how trans girls have all the physical advantages of a bio-male body which the biologically female body does not have. What their mental identity is doesn't affect that.
    personally, i think it is up to them, though society ends up often having the opposite idea. Which various areas would insist they are balletists, while their friends would consider them ballerinas.
    I for one, would accept both. Knowing the above is the case. Sometimes one just has to deal with the public opinion. Sadly.

    But yes, acrobatically, there is a major difference in stature and in form. Plus... the movement... would require some really good tucking techniques... which would end in embarassment and contraversy.

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    Many dances in classical ballet require the female corps de ballet members to be virtually identical to each other in appearance, so as to operate collectively as a homogeneous single unit and most definitely not to draw attention to any individual member - think of, say, the white Acts in Swan lake or the Kingdom of the shades in La bayadère. Any individual's physical characteristic such as height or build that negates the dancers' collective homogeneity thereby detracts from the harmonious and uniform artistic effect intended by a choreographer such as Petipa.

    That consideration certainly needs to be borne in mind when casting a traditionally mounted classical ballet, though it is not, on the other hand, of much or any importance in the post-classical repertoire or in iconoclastic productions of the classics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsilius View Post
    Many dances in classical ballet require the female corps de ballet members to be virtually identical to each other in appearance, so as to operate collectively as a homogeneous single unit and most definitely not to draw attention to any individual member - think of, say, the white Acts in Swan lake or the Kingdom of the shades in La bayadère. Any individual's physical characteristic such as height or build that negates the dancers' collective homogeneity thereby detracts from the harmonious and uniform artistic effect intended by a choreographer such as Petipa.

    That consideration certainly needs to be borne in mind when casting a traditionally mounted classical ballet, though it is not, on the other hand, of much or any importance in the post-classical repertoire or in iconoclastic productions of the classics.
    Yes,that is right,for example pas de quatre from Swan lake requires females identical to each other in appearance.

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    To have ballerina perfection is usually to be five foot three to five foot eight,with long legs a slender torso and well arched feet.The problem starts when young women loose the "girlish" physique,hips starts to fill out and breasts begin to develop.
    Ballet is strenuous and demanding on the body.As such a ballerina will build up a considerable amount of muscles especially in the legs and she can put on weight and this can cause a problem in partnering...But nobody is perfect.

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    Again, I don't think a biologically male body with all of its advantages over a biologically female body, should be classified as a ballerina. It might be fair with regard to gender identity, but it not fair with regard to physical ability and advantages, given sexual dimorphism.

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    The term ballerina is often used incorrectly to describe a female ballet dancer.Ballerina is a title given for female principal dancers,others are dancers/soloists,demi soloists,corps de ballet members or apprentices/

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    About two weeks ago the Dutch dance academy made a complain, the didn't get enough girls, they where "overflowed " by boys.....who wanted to became ballet dancer.
    Really I am not kidding you.
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