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    Default A Special Easter - what are you going to listen?

    This is a special year for Christianity, since the Easter Day (April 20) will be the same for all three primary divisions (Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy and Protestantism).

    This happens once every 4/5 years.

    Since the Eastern Orthodox Church follows the Julian calendar, their Easter usually falls some days or even weeks after the Catholic/Protestant one.

    To celebrate, I will listen to


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    Quote Originally Posted by GioCar View Post
    This is a special year for Christianity, since the Easter Day (April 20) will be the same for all three primary divisions (Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy and Protestantism).

    This happens once every 4/5 years.

    Since the Eastern Orthodox Church follows the Julian calendar, their Easter usually falls some days or even weeks after the Catholic/Protestant one.
    You made it read, a bit, like the Catholics and Protestants were using different calendars :-)

    It gets even more interesting when the Jewish Passover (Pesach), is in synch with the others; this is a strong reminder of the common connectivity about this spring observation and why it is most likely on this date -- too, for some hundreds of years a.c.e., spring was also the beginning of "the New Year.")

    "The Passover begins on the 15th day of the month of Nisan, which typically falls in March or April of the Gregorian calendar. Passover is a spring festival, so the 15th day of Nisan begins on the night of a full moon after the northern vernal equinox.

    Hmmm. These spring holidays are either on the day immediately after the full moon of the northern vernal equinox, or the Christian Sabbath immediately following the first full moon after the northern vernal equinox. Coincidence? Naaaaaw :-)
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    I will celebrate this Easter by listening to Bach's Matthäuspassion (Klemperer), Dvorak's Stabat Mater (Sinopoli) and Couperin's Lecons de Tenebres (Les Arts Florissants), among other things.
    Wäre das Faktum wahr, – wäre der außerordentliche Fall wirklich eingetreten, daß die politische Gesetzgebung der Vernunft übertragen, der Mensch als Selbstzweck respektiert und behandelt, das Gesetz auf den Thron erhoben, und wahre Freiheit zur Grundlage des Staatsgebäudes gemacht worden, so wollte ich auf ewig von den Musen Abschied nehmen, und dem herrlichsten aller Kunstwerke, der Monarchie der Vernunft, alle meine Thätigkeit widmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrB View Post
    You made it read, a bit, like the Catholics and Protestants were using different calendars :-)

    It gets even more interesting when the Jewish Passover (Pesach), is in synch with the others; this is a strong reminder of the common connectivity about this spring observation and why it is most likely on this date -- too, for some hundreds of years a.c.e., spring was also the beginning of "the New Year.")

    "The Passover begins on the 15th day of the month of Nisan, which typically falls in March or April of the Gregorian calendar. Passover is a spring festival, so the 15th day of Nisan begins on the night of a full moon after the northern vernal equinox.

    Hmmm. These spring holidays are either on the day immediately after the full moon of the northern vernal equinox, or the Christian Sabbath immediately following the first full moon after the northern vernal equinox. Coincidence? Naaaaaw :-)
    Oh, don't they use different calendars? Really?



    Joking aside, I'm sorry for my English...

    It's much more infrequent for (the beginning of) Pesach to coincide with all Easter days. Yes, this would be quite an Event!

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    I'll be organizing a peanut hunt for squirrels, a carrot hunt for rabbit, and dining on ham & scalloped potatoes...accompanied by a French Red.

    Music will probably include Scherchen Mahler 2 (rec. 1958), and HvK Verdi Requiem (rec. 1984).

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    I've found staying up for twenty-four hours, ringing a Tibetan bell, and, for instance, putting Morton Feldman's Piano and String Quartet on repeat play (or any number of different pieces might do) a perfectly alright way to observe both the vernal / autumnal equinox and the winter / summer solstice.

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    I'll be listening to Ancient Babylonian music recreations in worship of the fertility goddess, Ishtar (where we get the name Easter).

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    Quote Originally Posted by violadude View Post
    I'll be listening to Ancient Babylonian music recreations in worship of the fertility goddess, Ishtar (where we get the name Easter).
    "worship of the fertility goddess, Ishtar (where we get the name Easter)"
    ...well, that's Spring for ya'

    (Haughty) "Sniff," then "Pagan!"

    Have a good one, and of course, "be safe."
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    I will listen to Bach, who's art was devoted to GOD, a sworn enemy of Ishtar and all other idols.
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    Ishtar, huh?

    I will go to the old midnight service at the local Orthodox church and hear the music there! I don't know what I'll do the next day. Marie Keyrouz' "Chant Byzantin" album is my favorite album of Paschal music. I might listen to Bach's St. John Passion, pagan though it is with all those violins and whatnot, just because I like the music.
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    On Good Friday, I will listen to Penderecki's St. Luke Passion. On Easter, I will listen to Bach's Easter Oratorio - and maybe, Mahler's "Resurrection" Symphony.

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    Although it's not 'religious music', I will listen to Mahler's 2nd Symphony (Resurrection), just like I do every Easter.
    There may come a time when Youtube won't let us do this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrB View Post
    "worship of the fertility goddess, Ishtar (where we get the name Easter)"
    ...well, that's Spring for ya'

    (Haughty) "Sniff," then "Pagan!"

    Have a good one, and of course, "be safe."
    Point of information - not the goddess Ishtar but an English goddess - quote, Easter comes from Old English ēastre ; of Germanic origin and related to German Ostern and east; perhaps from Ēastre, the name of a goddess associated with spring.

    But you don't commemorate Woden every Wednesday, do you, PetrB? Or Mars in March?

    We will be listening to Vivaldi's Stabat Mater from our new boxed set as we drive to church for the Good Friday liturgy. And I hope to listen to some Russian Orthodox church music on Easter Sunday.
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    I will be listening to my son getting cavities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GioCar View Post
    Oh, don't they use different calendars? Really?



    Joking aside, I'm sorry for my English...

    It's much more infrequent for (the beginning of) Pesach to coincide with all Easter days. Yes, this would be quite an Event!


    well, your english is fine

    because many countries especially Orthodox, follow different calendars in civil (political) and church life.


    1. The Catholics, Protestant and Greek Orthodox churches, all use the Gregorian calendar

    2. Orthodox churches like Bulgaria and Romania use a revised Julian calendar

    3. Orthodox churches that are called Old calendar ones, like Russia and Serbia follow the old Julian calendar.

    And here is the interesting point.

    The Orthodox churches that use Gregorian calendar or the revised Julian calendar,
    they did not revise their Easter celebration, that's why all Orthodox churches in all 3 cases,
    celebrate Easter always together.

    And of course the use of different calendars is the reason why there is the difference
    in Easter dates between Orthodox and Catholics/Protestans.

    Of course the subject is more complicated, if we take in mind the Metonic cycle,
    if we also see which of the 2 calendars is used for calculating the spring equinox, etc etc.

    Now, regarding Jewish Passover, PetrB is right, but the subject needs long discussions.


    oh yes, I must think what music is my favourite for these days

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