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    Thumbs up Which theme would you write variations on?

    I thought this would be fun.

    Say you had the variation-writing prowess of Bach, Beethoven or Brahms...

    Which theme from an existing piece of music would you choose to write your set of 20 or so variations on?
    Bear in mind the usual qualities of variation themes - self-contained, expandable qualities etc...

    Have fun

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    the theme from Z -Cars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL1HnDGTAK8

    first thing that came into my head - eek!
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    "Coronach" a.k.a the theme from BBC 4's "Blood of the British" by Dee Palmer and Jethro Tull (Ian Anderson). Such a stunning beautiful melody!



    On the other hand, I wouldn't want to sully it.

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    There are lots of possibilities, but one I think would be the opening theme of Schubert's D946 no.1. All it needs is for the theme to resolve back into E flat minor!
    Here's the section - from 0:00 to 0:39:

    It somehow seems just like a variation theme - it has a distinctive harmonic progression, and the melody is beautiful but not 'untouchably' so.
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    "Devoted to you" by the Everly Brothers.
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    I would love to compose variations on the Russian folk song Korobeiniki.

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    The hymn tune Hyfrydol. Simple tune but with intriguing possibilities.
    Heather W. Reichgott, piano
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    Yankee Doodle would be fun and silly
    Chopin, Preludes 7 in A flat, and 20 in C minor. Both have been used for variations before, but they're such spacious melodies with untapped potential.
    Frere Jacques would also be fun

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    Hey, I've got it! Paganini's 24th Caprice!
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    I think of this kind of thing often.

    Faure comes to mind fairly often - I see him as a wonderful melodist that hasn't been beaten to death

    I also think it would be fun to write classical music with variations based on non-classical themes, though these can be a little limited since non-classical music tends to have shorter melodic lines...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    Hey, I've got it! Paganini's 24th Caprice!
    There's an original thought. Get in line!
    Facts don't care about your feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    There's an original thought. Get in line!
    That bait was just for you, h!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    That bait was just for you, h!
    Ha! Ha! I believe even Lutoslawski has two compositions in the Paganini 24th Caprice sweepstakes.

    The first time I heard the 24th Caprice, I deliberately went through all the preceding Caprices first to build tension; didn't count on bathroom visits; my mistake.

    Then after finally hearing the 24th Caprice as written by Paganini, I was disappointed, emoting to my dog with the blank expression on his face, "I like the Rachmaninoff version better!!!"

    I was spring cleaning this afternoon and found this little waltz by some Diabelli dude.
    Sounds like it's variation prone. I'll get back to you guys on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    Hey, I've got it! Paganini's 24th Caprice!
    Already taken, the eccentric Swedish Composer Claude Loyola Allgén (1920-1990) wrote a concerto he named "I Capricci", 24 movements each a set of variations on the same numbers Paganini Capriccio, the work was about two hours and 10 mins long.. Unfortunatly, Allgén choose to live a life in poverty (after having converted to Catholicism in his thirties and being inspired by Saint Benedict) and burned to his death in a house fire that also consumed many of his manuscripts, in the case of I Capricci only partly..



    First page of this work!

    Unfortunately there's very little written about Allgén in English, here's a link to a Swedish Tribute page with a few things..

    /ptr
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    I;d love to take a Medieval tune, such as Ontre Todalas and see if I could create variations that were contemporary while maintaining a "Medieval" flavor.
    Last edited by Whistler Fred; Apr-20-2014 at 20:42. Reason: Typo

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