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    Exclamation Harrison Birtwistle

    One word - genius. Discuss.
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    The Minotaur received its world premiere in April (15th, I think), and BBC2 broadcasted the work last Saturday. Are you familiar with it?

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    I'm not actually - I definitely need to get hold of a recording, how many recordings are available?
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    The work is two months old, I don't think there's any recording of it.

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    One word: Who?

    Any links to sample this?
    Remember the 3 SW's: Some Will, Some Won't, So What!

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    Si vos agnosco is tunc vos es quoque erudio

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    Well, I must try him again, heard some stuff a couple of years ago , was not impressed in the slightest, but things change.

    Bach I tried your links via Youtube, thanks. My view has not changed, he is just not for me.
    Why?? No Rhythm, No Melody and the sound is cacophonous to my ears.
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    I thought I recognized this name. 'Twas the 'mystery' composer someone had posted in the 'Name the composer' game a while back. He still remains a mystery to me, as I haven't heard any of his works....yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rondo View Post
    I thought I recognized this name. He still remains a mystery to me, as I haven't heard any of his works....yet.
    You have not missed much IMHO

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    I can understand why he would not appeal, but from an academic perspective - he's really rather sound. Structurally, melodically, harmonically, originality - he's an excellent composer. One of the best of our time, I would argue.
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    Can you post a link to a piece that you consider would be acceptable to most, perhaps I have not heard the good stuff. lol

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    Sadly very little Birtwistle is on YouTube, but I would recommend The Triumph of Time and Gawain's Journey for Birtwistle beginners. You can find clips of both on iTunes.
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    Granted I didn't come into it as a fan of other Birtwistle works (have only heard Triumph Of Time), but last night I gave The Mask Of Orpheus a second listen.

    Intriguing to no end, yes. Some sonic pleasure here and there. But for a lengthy opera that's inevitably going to need to keep you hooked, it still felt lacking.

    Anyone care to shed some light on this work, or Birtwistle in general? I'll probably give the thing an eventual third try, but I just wasn't quite convinced.

    Edit: Actually, I read a bit more about the work and then listened to the third act before work today...enjoyed it a fair bit more!
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    I've listened to the Clocks piece a bunch of times. I think it's wonderful and I'd like to learn it someday.
    I think there is a youtube of it but Joanna Macgregor plays it much better than the guy on youtube.
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    Great composer but not as imaginative as Ferneyhough and Finnissy.

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