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    I like very much the various lists, cause give the members and the visitors the chance at a glance to have an idea of the most important or interesting works in various areas of the music art. (Symphony, concerto, oratorio, Quartett etc.) And this, not from one paid journalist or music expert, but from many music fans with greater knowledge and long year music experience.


    My (new) list (for January, let us say. Weeks before I gave also one)


    1. Tschaikowsky 5 (this will never change)

    2.Scriabin 1

    -Tschaikowsky Manfred

    -Tschaikowsky 6

    -Beethoven 7

    -Mahler 2

    -Mahler 8

    -Bruckner 4

    -Fibich 2 (first entry worldwide, as I know…)

    -Gliere 3, Ilya Murometz. (new entry)


    (as always I have 1st place and 2nd places only. This means, that for ME, the 2 and the 10 are of the same importance)
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    My current list, in order, along with a performance you should hear (maybe not the best, maybe very far FROM the best):

    1. Mahler 9 (Walter, Vienna 1938 live)
    2. Bruckner 8 (Horenstein, LSO 1970 live)
    3. Bruckner 9 (Knappertsbusch, BPO 1950 live)
    4. Mahler 6 (Barbirolli, New Philharmonia studio)
    5. Beethoven 3 (Furtwangler, BPO 1952 live)
    6. Mahler 3 (Tennstedt, Minnesota S.O. 1981 live)
    7. Mahler 2 (3-way tie: Walter/Forrester/Cundari, NYPO 1958 studio; Klemperer/Schwarzkopf/Rossl-Majdan, Philharmonia studio; Mehta/Quivar/Gustafson, Israel Philharmonic 1994 studio)
    8. Mahler 1 (Horenstein, LSO 1969 studio)
    9. Beethoven 6 (Walter, Columbia 1958 studio)
    10. Bruckner 7 (pick any Karajan)

    That was actually easier than I thought it would be.

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    At the moment, I'd say:

    Brahms 3
    Sibelius 2
    Sibelius 5
    Prokofiev 5
    Prokofiev 6
    Bruckner 5
    Arnold 5
    Franck
    Barber 1
    Tchaikovsky 5

    Others I'd like to mention:
    Dvorak 9
    Harris 3
    Shuman, W 3
    Prokofiev 3
    Maslanka 2
    Last edited by 20centrfuge; Jan-19-2019 at 06:04.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20centrfuge View Post
    At the moment, I'd say:

    Brahms 3
    Sibelius 2
    Sibelius 5
    Prokofiev 5
    Prokofiev 6
    Bruckner 5
    Arnold 5
    Franck
    Barber 1
    Tchaikovsky 5
    I'll take your Sibelius and Prokofiev choices but will need to mix in some Ludwigs. And Dmitris.
    Last edited by KenOC; Jan-19-2019 at 06:44.


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    I was curious about something. So I just looked over the lists of symphonies on this thread. It certainly contains great works; and it seems that every major "war horse" is listed, often multiple times. Which is good. This is music everyone should know.

    But I was curious about some of the lesser known works listed, works which apparently some of you feel belong in the ranks of "best symphonies", which is what this thread was about. Below I've listed some of the more off the chart works, pieces which we probably don't yet count with "war horses", those old familiar great works that get a lot of concert time and classical music radio air play.

    I was rather surprised to note for myself that there was but a single work listed on this thread that I had not heard. I believe I have all but that one in my current disc collection, that sole work being the Maslanka Symphony 2, which I have since listened to on line. And you should, too.

    What I wanted to suggest is that you take a look at this list of the lesser known works and identify any you haven't heard, and give them a listen, or two. You may find, as I do, that indeed there is greatness here. I'm certain that not every work listed here really qualifies as among the 10 "best" symphonies of all time, but that list is a near impossibility anyhow. In any case, there are major works here (such as the Walton First Symphony and the Roussel Third) that certainly deserve knowing.

    Though most of these received only a single mention, a few of them were mentioned at least twice (such as the Gorecki Third). But these works may well prove lands of adventure for you who are explorers. After all, your fellow Forum posters consider these among "the best", so why spend time listening to something else before you've had a chance to experience these. And keep in mind that most of these composers, if not all (Is Rott the exception?), have written multiple symphonies, and they are likely well worth exploring, too.

    So … happy listening.

    Nørgård 2
    Chavez India
    Borodin 2
    Alfven 4.
    Dutilleux 1
    Bruch 3
    Messiaen Turangalila
    Rott -Symphony in E major
    Harbison #1
    Barber #1
    Pettersson 8
    Schmidt 2
    Hindemith Symphony in b-flat
    Weinberg - 8 & 12
    Bernstein 2
    Khachaturian 2
    Walton 1
    Honegger 4
    Gorecki 3
    Rouse 2
    Albert "Riverrun"
    Silvestrov 6
    Tubin 8
    Berio - Sinfonia
    Kalinnikov's 2nd
    Schuman 6 & 9
    Mennin 7
    Henze #7
    Bax 2, 5 & 6
    Martinů 1 & 6
    Bliss A Colour Symphony
    d'Indy Symphony on a French Mountain Air
    Rimsky-Korsakov Antar
    Roussel 3
    Lajtha 8
    Schnittke 1, 3 & 5
    Langgaard 4
    Tubin 2
    Coates 14
    Gerhard 3
    M. Arnold 7
    R. Strauss Alpine
    Henze 5
    Lutoslawski 3
    Dutilleaux Metaboles
    Carter Symphonia
    Korngold: Symphony
    Fibich 2
    Gliere 3, Ilya Murometz
    Maslanka 2
    Raff 6


    And of course there is Alypius's untraditional list.

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    My attempt as a newbee on this forum:

    1. Mahler 3
    2. Mahler 2
    3. Mahler 9
    4. Messiaen: Turangalila
    5. Shostakovich: 8
    6. Shostakovich: 13
    7. Bruckner: 5
    8. Lutoslawski: 3
    9. Mozart: 40 (actually only as directed by Harnoncourt with the Concertgebouw Orchestra)
    10. Dutilleux: 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by NLAdriaan View Post
    My attempt as a newbee on this forum:

    1. Mahler 3
    2. Mahler 2
    3. Mahler 9
    4. Messiaen: Turangalila
    5. Shostakovich: 8
    6. Shostakovich: 13
    7. Bruckner: 5
    8. Lutoslawski: 3
    9. Mozart: 40 (actually only as directed by Harnoncourt with the Concertgebouw Orchestra)
    10. Dutilleux: 1
    Thank you for your list, newbee NLAdriaan. But … can we really take such a list seriously if it contains not a single Beethoven symphony?

    Just joshin'. I know this kind of listing is always purely subjective, and though I may consider the Beethoven Third as one of the 10 greatest symphonies of all time (even if it is not on my list of 10 favorite symphonies!), I need not expect others to do so. As I suggested earlier, such listing remains a fool's pursuit, really. But we are all fools, aren't we? And we do appreciate your list. (And … anyone who embraces Mahler's 2, 3, and 9 and Shosty's 8th and Bruckner's 5th as "best" symphonies has a fine appreciation of music, certainly. -- And those other works are good ones, too!)

    But your post, notably your parenthetical addition, prodded my mind a moment. Listing Mozart's 40th on a list of "great" or "best" or "favorite" symphonies is not unusual, or unwarranted. But when one adds "only as directed by so-and-so with such-and-such an orchestra", an entirely new dimension is added. One that centers not on the work itself, but on the performance of the work. Which is what your post brings me round to contemplating....

    When we discuss a "great symphony", I expect that is something other than discussing a "great performance". The issue becomes: where do the bounds of a symphony begin and end? I would think it is in the score. If the score does not blueprint something of value, no performance, no interpretation will be able to bring it to the fore. Likewise, if Beethoven's Third is indeed the "great symphony" I believe it is, no poor performance can change that notion. Sure, the performance can be shoddy, even incoherent. Incompetent, ridiculous. A band of elementary school students blowing on kazoos! But that does not change the essence of the work itself as notated by the composer.

    Several of us on this Forum tend to qualify quality of works with comments such as "as directed by" or "as performed by", but I wonder if we should indeed do so. I have no objection to such qualification coming in a thread positing the concept of "greatest performances of a work" or "greatest interpretations of a work". But when the topic is simply "10 Best Symphonies" we must consider the quality of the work itself, as written by the composer, rather than any particular performance.

    Which brings me to the obvious question: Is Mozart's 40th a "best symphony" or not?

    Much to think about here, NLAdriaan. Which is why I so value your post.

    Welcome to the Forum, and may your stay be long and your contributions continue to have value.
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    10. Beethoven 5
    9. Mendelssohn 4
    8. Beethoven 7
    7. Brahms 2
    6. Schubert 9 (Great C Major to avoid confusion
    5. Mozart 39
    4. Mozart Prague
    3.Mozart 40
    2. Brahms 4
    1. Jupiter

    Sorry, boring.

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    Jolivet's 3rd
    Blomdahl's 3rd ("Facetter")
    Bennett's 1st
    Searle's 5th
    Holmboe's 6th
    Gerhard's 4th ("New York")
    Frankel's 1st
    Yun's 2nd
    Wellesz's 7th
    Valen's 2nd

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    They'd all be by Mozart, but I can't think of ten off the top of my head.

    Three that have stood out to me are #1, #40 & #41.

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    A. Bruckner 3
    A. Bruckner 4
    A. Bruckner 5
    A. Bruckner 6
    A. Bruckner 7
    A. Bruckner 8
    A. Bruckner 9
    F. Schubert 9
    Ludwig van 3
    Ludwig van 9

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    1. Beethoven 9
    2. Schubert 9 "Great"
    3. Bruckner 8
    4. Bruckner 9
    5. Mahler 9
    6. Bruckner 7
    7. Mahler 2
    8. Beethoven 7
    9. Beethoven 5
    10. Tie-- Mozart 41; Brahms 4; Tchaikovsky 6
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    Only Mahler 8 / 3 and 2 are a kind of holy trinity.
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    Beethoven 7
    Beethoven 9
    Schubert 9
    Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique
    Bruckner 5
    Bruckner 8
    Mahler 7
    Mahler Das Lied von der Erde
    Debussy La Mer
    Messiaen Turangalila

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    1. Elsner - Symphony in C major, Op.11 (1805)
    2. Lipiński - Symphony in B flat major, Op. 2 No. 3 (1810)
    3. Dobrzyński - Symphony No. 2 in C minor "Characteristic", Op.15" (1831)
    4. Saint-Saëns - Symphony in F major "Urbs Roma" (1856)
    5. Reinecke - Symphony No. 1 in A major, Op. 79 (1858, rev. 1863)
    6. Rheinberger - Symphony No. 1 in D minor, Op. 10 "Wallenstein" (1866)
    7. Noskowski - Symphony No. 1 in A major (1875)
    8. Reinecke - Symphony No. 2 in C minor, Op. 134 (1875, rev. 1888)
    9. Rheinberger - Symphony No. 2 in F major, Op. 87 (1875)
    10. Brahms - Symphony No. 2 in D major, Op. 73 (1877)
    11. Noskowski - Symphony No. 2 in C minor (1879)
    12. Sgambati - Symphony No. 1 in D major, Op. 16 (1881)
    13. Brahms - Symphony No. 3 in F major, Op. 90 (1883)
    14. Saint-Saëns - Symphony No.3 in C minor "Organ Symphony", Op. 78 (1886)
    15. Fuchs - Symphony No. 1 in C major, Op. 37 (1884)
    16. Fuchs - Symphony No. 2 in E-flat major, Op. 45 (1887)
    17. Gernsheim - Symphony No. 3 in C minor "Mirjam", Op. 54 (1887)
    18. Wieniawski, Józef - Symphony in D major, Op. 49 (1890)
    19. Gretchaninov - Symphony No. 1 in B minor, Op. 6 (1894)
    20. Reinecke - Symphony No. 3 in G minor, Op. 227 (1894)
    21. Gernsheim - Symphony No. 4 in B-flat major, Op. 62 (1895)
    22. Sgambati - Symphony No. 2 in E-flat major (1895)
    23. Martucci - Symphony No. 1 in D minor, Op. 75 (1895)
    24. Rachmaninoff - Symphony No. 1 in D minor, Op. 13 (1895)
    25. Stojowski - Symphony in D minor, Op. 21 (1897)
    26. Sibelius - Symphony No. 1 in E minor, Op. 39 (1899)
    27. Dohnányi - Symphony No. 1 in D minor, Op. 9 (1901)
    28. Karłowicz - Symphony "Rebirth" in E minor, Op. 7 (1902)
    29. Melartin - Symphony No. 1 in C minor, Op. 30 No. 1 (1902)
    30. Olsson - Symphony in G minor, Op. 11 (1902)
    31. Noskowski - Symphony No. 3 in F major "From Spring to Spring" (1903)
    32. Fuchs - Symphony No. 3 in E major, Op. 79 (1906)
    33. Gretchaninov - Symphony No. 2 in A major "Pastoral", Op. 27 (1908)
    34. Rachmaninoff - Symphony No. 2 in E minor, Op. 27 (1908)
    35. Młynarski - Symphony in F major "Polonia", Op. 14 (1910)
    36. Peterson-Berger - Symphony No. 2 in E flat major, "The Journey of Southerly Winds" (1910)
    37. Sibelius - Symphony No. 4 in A minor, Op 63 (1911)
    38. Melartin - Symphony No. 5 "Sinfonia Brevis" in A minor, Op. 90 (1915)
    39. Peterson-Berger - Symphony No. 3 in F minor, "Lappland Symphony" (1915)
    40. Wetz - Symphony No. 1 in C minor, Op. 40 (1916)
    41. Berg, Natanael - Symphony No. 4 "Pezzo Sinfonico" (1918)
    42. Wetz - Symphony No. 2 in A major, Op. 47 (1920)
    43. Sibelius - Symphony No. 5 in E-flat major, Op. 82 (1921)
    44. Melartin - Symphony No. 6, Op. 100 (1924)
    45. Sibelius - Symphony No. 7 in C major, Op. 105 (1924)
    46. Gretchaninov - Symphony No. 4 in C major, Op. 102 (1927)
    47. Peterson-Berger - Symphony No. 5 in B major, "Solitude" (1933)
    48. Graener - Wiener Sinfonie in F major, Op. 110 (1941)
    49. Dohnányi - Symphony No. 2 in E major, Op. 40 (1944)
    50. Malipiero - Symphony No. 3 "Delle campane" (1945)
    51. Malipiero - Symphony No. 6 "Degli archi" (1947)
    52. Malipiero - Symphony No. 7 "Delle canzoni" (1948)

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