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    I'm thinking about getting this set:


    Icon: Eugen Jochum

    It includes Jochum's Bruckner cycle with the Dresden Staatskapelle, his Brahms cycle with the LPO, and his Beethoven cycle with the LSO -- plus Bach's Mass in B minor & Mozart's Requiem.

    20 CDs. Ridiculously inexpensive.

    Any thoughts?
    Last edited by JACE; Jul-31-2014 at 17:39.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JACE View Post
    20 CDs. Ridiculously inexpensive.

    Any thoughts?
    Ridiculously inexpensive always sounds good.

    Go for it. I won't tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JACE View Post
    I'm thinking about getting this set:


    Icon: Eugen Jochum

    It includes Jochum's Bruckner cycle with the Dresden Staatskapelle, his Brahms cycle with the LPO, and his Beethoven cycle with the LSO -- plus Bach's Mass in B minor & Mozart's Requiem.

    20 CDs. Ridiculously inexpensive.

    Any thoughts
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    Ridiculously 'inapposite.'

    Despite the barn-burner price, I'd go for the more-poised, more-epic, more-heroic readings and performances of the Haitink/Concertgebouw and the Karajan/BPO.

    -- Well, you asked. ;D

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    Get it. It's a great set.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    Get it. It's a great set.
    And how many of us have great sets anymore?
    Last edited by amfortas; Jul-31-2014 at 17:57.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marschallin Blair View Post
    Ridiculously 'inapposite.'

    Despite the barn-burner price, I'd go for the more-poised, more-epic, more-heroic readings and performances of the Haitink/Concertgebouw and the Karajan/BPO.

    -- Well, you asked. ;D

    Haitink's Bruckner leaves me cold. I've heard a couple of his Bruckner recordings, and they didn't do anything for me.

    HvK's Bruckner, on the other hand, has impressed me. But I've not heard that much of it.

    Maybe I'll get Herbie's set down the line... after Jochum.


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    Plus I want to hear Jochum's Beethoven & Brahms. I've read good things about them too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amfortas View Post
    And how many of us have great sets anymore?
    I'm not a 'set' person, myself.

    I go by individual performances; or even movements within performances.

    I never understood the fixation on 'sets.'

    Quality I can understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JACE View Post
    Haitink's Bruckner leaves me cold. I've heard a couple of his Bruckner recordings, and they didn't do anything for me.

    HvK's Bruckner, on the other hand, has impressed me. But I've not heard that much of it.

    Maybe I'll get Herbie's set down the line... after Jochum.


    EDIT:
    Plus I want to hear Jochum's Beethoven & Brahms. I've read good things about them too.
    His Beethoven and Brahms are excellent.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marschallin Blair View Post
    I'm not a 'set' person, myself.

    I go by individual performances; or even movements within performances.

    I never understood the fixation on 'sets.'

    Quality I can understand.
    O.K. Fair enough.

    In that case, which of von Karajan's Bruckner recordings appeal to you the most? Forced to pick just one recording, what would it be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JACE View Post
    I'm thinking about getting this set:


    Icon: Eugen Jochum

    It includes Jochum's Bruckner cycle with the Dresden Staatskapelle, his Brahms cycle with the LPO, and his Beethoven cycle with the LSO -- plus Bach's Mass in B minor & Mozart's Requiem.

    20 CDs. Ridiculously inexpensive.

    Any thoughts?
    Everything in that set is top notch. I'm serious. Everything is exceptional. You won't regret it.

    ClassicsToday even gave it a 10 for performance and a 9 for sound and said several recordings in that set are Reference Edition quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amfortas View Post
    Ridiculously inexpensive always sounds good.

    Go for it. I won't tell.
    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    Get it. It's a great set.
    Quote Originally Posted by realdealblues View Post
    Everything in that set is top notch. I'm serious. Everything is exceptional. You won't regret it.

    ClassicsToday even gave it a 10 for performance and a 9 for sound and said several recordings in that set are Reference Edition quality.

    O.K. Under the influence of all your "arm-twisting" (which is wonderful, by the way), I just pulled the trigger. It's pay-day and the money was burning hole in my pocket.

    I'll report back after I've had a chance to dig in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JACE View Post
    O.K. Fair enough.

    In that case, which of von Karajan's Bruckner recordings appeal to you the most? Forced to pick just one recording, what would it be?
    If forced to choose only one, I could do no better than to choose three.

    All three would 'sahshay, they stay':

    the caressingly-elegant touch of the Karajan DG Fourth; his bigger-than-life sounding DG Eighth with the unmatched brass flourishes in the last movement; and his nearly-titanic, digital-not-analogue DG Ninth (the Furtwangler/BPO is my all-time favorite).

    They're all just so different.
    Last edited by Marschallin Blair; Jul-31-2014 at 19:17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marschallin Blair View Post
    I'm not a 'set' person, myself.

    I go by individual performances; or even movements within performances.

    I never understood the fixation on 'sets.'

    Quality I can understand.
    Sets can be excellent.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    Sets can be excellent.
    I tend to find so many of them uneven in either inspiration or performance.

    Haitink's late-sixties Concertgebouw Bruckner's eighth blows doors; but his Bruckner's Fourth in the same set is solidly-respectable, but hardly in the same league.

    Same 'set' though.
    Last edited by Marschallin Blair; Jul-31-2014 at 19:21.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marschallin Blair View Post
    I tend to find so many of them uneven in either inspiration or performance.

    Haitink's late-sixties Concertgebouw Bruckner's eighth blows doors; but his Bruckner's Fourth in the same set is solidly-respectable, but hardly in the same league.

    Same 'set' though.
    Agree. Many are uneven. But with my favorite artists, I enjoy hearing their takes on things.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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