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    Welcome to TalkClassical Thomas! Your Blog is beautiful!

    I had reviewed the last Bruckner recordings by Skrowaczewski for Denon and I was quite satisfied. I'm no audiophile and I prefer other styles in Bruckner than his. Please, have a great time among us and share the content you want. You can also put a permanent link of your blog in your posts.

    However, I would like to remind people that my inquiry is about complete cycles and not recordings, because there's another long thread for that. Thank you!

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    Solti/CSO - excellent throughout, with some really outstanding ones - 3,6,7,8,9...also Solti is one of the few that, for me, can get #5 to hang together...

    Barenboim/CSO - his first cycle - splendidly recorded by DG... all are excellent, great # 3,4,6,7 [III/scherzo, the best!!]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heck148 View Post
    Solti/CSO - excellent throughout, with some really outstanding ones - 3,6,7,8,9...also Solti is one of the few that, for me, can get #5 to hang together...

    Barenboim/CSO - his first cycle - splendidly recorded by DG... all are excellent, great # 3,4,6,7 [III/scherzo, the best!!]
    I like both, but I've lately fallen in love with the Barenboim first cycle. Do you own on CD any of those? Which Release?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post
    I like both, but I've lately fallen in love with the Barenboim first cycle. Do you own on CD any of those? Which Release?

    I own the one pictured...DG released 4/7, and 9 previously as 2-disc set, singles...I have those, but the sound on the complete set is much better....the full set is sonically really outstanding.

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    I'm quite fond of Tintner's set. If you can track down a copy of one of Takashi Asahina's cycles with the Osaka Philharmonic, those are well worth listening to as well, though the recordings are beginning to sound a bit dated. They are hard to come by in the USA though.
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    Lately, I've been listening to, and enjoying the set by the late Stanislaw Skrowaczewski:

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    Consistently excellent performances and sonics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gardibolt View Post
    I'm quite fond of Tintner's set. If you can track down a copy of one of Takashi Asahina's cycles with the Osaka Philharmonic, those are well worth listening to as well, though the recordings are beginning to sound a bit dated. They are hard to come by in the USA though.
    Agreed. Asahina has a lovely way with Bruckner. It's on the slower side but he keeps the pulse of the music. His Beethovens are good too (he did 7 cycles of those). Think Klemperer and that's kind of what you get with Asahina. I've got 3 (I think - ill have to check) Asahina Bruckner cycles (JVC , Jean-Jean and Canyon Classics). I definitely have the first two anyway. Avoid his Brahms cycle like the plague, though. Its very pedestrian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkasimer View Post
    Lately, I've been listening to, and enjoying the set by the late Stanislaw Skrowaczewski:



    Consistently excellent performances and sonics.
    I don't quite agree on that (the sound quality is mostly very good), but his style is so particular and the box is so inexpensive that maybe in the future I could purchase it. No.6 is my favourite from the set.

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    Call me jinxed. The Jochum Dresden cycle in the 2000 remasters is on sale at 27€ in Amazon Spain plus delivery (free over 29€) but I my final Bruckner challenge may happen in a month. I still don't know how good the 2017 Japanese remasters have been and I already own 3 complete Bruckner cycles.



    Don't even mention the green box. It maybe cheaper but I have said multiple times that I don't like the 90s remasters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post

    Don't even mention the green box. It maybe cheaper but I have said multiple times that I don't like the 90s remasters.
    Could you clarify on the different remasterings of the boxes? Which one is the green? Which has the best remasteing, could you provide a link?

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    Default Bruckner Jochum in Dresden - Remasters Part I

    Quote Originally Posted by Konsgaard View Post
    Could you clarify on the different remasterings of the boxes? Which one is the green? Which has the best remasteing, could you provide a link?
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    B000002S0M - 1990 first CD remaster



    B00D56ADAS - Budget 2013 Release (a reincarnation of the 1990 Remaster?)




    B00004YA0T - 2000 Release with new ART remasters (you may remember the double-forte series)


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    Default Bruckner Jochum in Dresden - Remasters Part II

    B008I157AQ - 2012 Icon box, with confirmed 2000 Remasters of the Bruckner symphonies et al.



    2017 Tower Records Japanese remaster by Warner Classics in SACD

    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post




    Open the images to zoom in

    I just found out that there is a limited SACD edition of the Jochum Dresden Bruckner cycle, remastered in 2017. It was released in Tower Records Japan and the price is from $188:

    Bruckner: Symphonies 1~9
    Sächsische Staatskapelle Dresden
    Eugen Jochum

    Limited to 1000 copies (with serial number)
    JAPAN Box Set - 9 SACD Hybrid
    Release Date: December 22, 2017
    TOWER RECORDS DEFINITION SERIES
    TDSA-60
    SACD: 2017, Newly 96kHz/24bit Remastering from the original master
    CD: 2017, Newly 96kHz/24bit Remastering from the original master


    Let's see if you can click here.
    I've been thinking now that nowhere on Amazon or this forum have I found a proof that shows that the Green box uses new remasters, but if the ornamental box in 2000 also states copyright in 1990, the only difference in packaging between those two boxes is that one says 2000 and the other says 2013, but both have the 1990 copyright. Can anyone who owns the Green box figure out if the booklet states explicitly the year of the remaster? I think I can trust the back of the 2000 box, but now I'm not so sure about the 2013 green one.

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    The quest for the EMI remasters is also a funny journey in the three different editions of the Tennstedt Mahler cycle. The first CD edition in 1998 just remastered the Analogue recordings, left the digital recordings untouched and had all the studio accounts.



    In 2011, EMI released a complete Mahler black box of 16 CDs with live recordings and DLVDE that I proudly own. All analogue recordings, plus the digital No.2, had been remastered again in the early 2000s with ART.



    In 2013, Warner released again what seemed to be a faithful incarnation of the first orange box: the 1998 remasters and only the studio accounts 1-9+10Ad. Now I'm not that sure because no one ever replied to my questions about the purple box remasters with booklet information.



    I'll just say that the 2000s remasters sound richer than the old ones in this case. I don't know why they would go back to the old ones.

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    Granate, thanks for all this remastering information!

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    Granate, what do you wanna know about this box. I've got it sat in front of me right now. It's the one I ordered from the US for the massive price of £2.72. Gotta be bargain of the century (even if it did take 6 weeks to arrive).

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