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    Quote Originally Posted by Merl View Post
    Granate, what do you wanna know about this box. I've got it sat in front of me right now. It's the one I ordered from the US for the massive price of £2.72. Gotta be bargain of the century (even if it did take 6 weeks to arrive).

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    If you could please hand in the data the booklet has about remasters it would be very helpful. If you have the Bruckner green box, if you do the same, I would be very happy.

    Yesterday I was checking out the remastering information of the EMI Don Giovanni by Wilhelm Furtwängler in Salzburg 1954, and I found out the same issue. It's like I cannot understand EMI's information in their back covers:



    1991 Remaster/Release



    2005 ART remaster



    Back to 1986/1991?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post
    If you could please hand in the data the booklet has about remasters it would be very helpful. If you have the Bruckner green box, if you do the same, I would be very happy.
    OK, Granate, there's nothing in the booklet about remastering but on the back of some CDs (not all) it highlights those that have have remastered (see pic below). It seems that the remastered discs are;

    Symphonies 1 & 2 (digitally remastered 2000)
    Symphonies 3, 4 & 5 (digitally remastered 2001)
    Symphonies 9 & 10 (digitally remastered 2002)

    Symphonies 6, 7 & 8 do not have any remastering info on them so I assume they weren't messed with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merl View Post
    OK, Granate, there's nothing in the booklet about remastering but on the back of some CDs (not all) it highlights those that have have remastered (see pic below). It seems that the remastered discs are;

    Symphonies 1 & 2 (digitally remastered 2000)
    Symphonies 3, 4 & 5 (digitally remastered 2001)
    Symphonies 9 & 10 (digitally remastered 2002)

    Symphonies 6, 7 & 8 do not have any remastering info on them so I assume they weren't messed with.
    Quote Originally Posted by Granate View Post
    2011 Release - EMI (Booklet information)

    Studio Cycle
    No.1 - (P) 1978/2000*
    No.2 - (P) 1982/2000*
    No.3 - (P) 1980/2001*
    No.4 - (P) 1983
    No.5 - (P) 1979/2001*
    No.6 - (P) 1981
    No.7 - (P) 1983
    No.8 - (P) 1987
    DLVDE - (P) 1992
    No.9&10 - (P) 1980/2002*

    Live cycle
    No.5 - (P) 1989
    No.6 - (P) 1995
    No.7 - (P) 1995

    Digital remastering by EMI records Ltd. This compilation (P) 2011 by EMI records Ltd. (C) EMI records Ltd.
    Then we can call it a victory! Indeed, Warner used the ART transfers in the symphonies exaclty as EMI did in 2011. We can relax. If the back cover info by Warner wasn't so confusing...

    Now it's more likely that the Warner Green box for Bruckner certainly uses the 2000 remasters. I didn't trust it because a lot of Amazon reviewers had been complaining (like me) about the brass sound in the green box, or they were much more vocal than the 2000 ornamental one. Can anyone be so nice to check out the booklet too?

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    Does anyone own or has listened to the following cycle? It's quite pricey, but some of the reviews were outstanding.

    If anyone is familiar with this cycle, would you tell me how you feel about the music and the sound quality?
    Thanks.

    Bruckner: Complete Symphonies (Box Set) [Hybrid SACD]
    Herbert Blomstedt , Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rach Man View Post
    Does anyone own or has listened to the following cycle? It's quite pricey, but some of the reviews were outstanding.

    If anyone is familiar with this cycle, would you tell me how you feel about the music and the sound quality?
    Thanks.

    Bruckner: Complete Symphonies (Box Set) [Hybrid SACD]
    Herbert Blomstedt , Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra

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    I have a couple of the individual discs. The performances are excellent without breaking any new ground, and the sound is fabulous. The only reason I haven't bought the set is the price.

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    I copy wkasimer's comment. It's certainly most impressive SACD Bruckner set. It's a deluxe set, but without deluxe performance quality unfortunately, unless you are an audiophile. But I think the label has the right to price the set this way because today there's no need to be competitive against labels but to earn enough profit.

    I wish Eurodisc had signed another conductor rather than the in-house Masur to do their Bruckner set. The Leipzig Gewandhaus is not the same orchestra today as in the 1960s and 1970s. Nor is the BPO or the Staatskapelle Dresden. At least to my ears

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    I like Barenboim's third complete set. Symphonies 1-3 were recorded live Vienna in 2012, and 4-9 were recorded live in Berlin in 2010.
    Last edited by RockyIII; Jan-30-2019 at 23:23.

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    The great HVK Bruckner set in remastered CD and 24/96 blu ray formats, price very cheap at Presto UK, coming soon it will be mine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post


    The great HVK Bruckner set in remastered CD and 24/96 blu ray formats, price very cheap at Presto UK, coming soon it will be mine!
    Are the cds remastered ? or just the blu ray?
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    Are the cds remastered ? or just the blu ray?
    ^^^^ Sorry very hard to find info, we need to see back cover info.......

    You are right we should not "assume" that CDs are remastered
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    ^^^^ Sorry very hard to find info, we need to see back cover info.......

    You are right we should not "assume" that CDs are remastered
    I bet they're not. Like the Bernstein set wasn't.
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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    That would be quite dishonest, but it's like they would save one job to put everything glossy and remastered in a Blu-Ray audio and just put the same old CDs (with Symphony No.5 split) from the old transfers but in the most attractive sleeves.

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    I sent an email to DG to enquire about the format of the soundfiles on the complete Kleiber DG set. They didn't answer that one and nowhere on the documentation you could find anything. So I suspect they just issue the same CD bits and bites on a blu-ray, which makes this set the emperor's clothes.

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    I'm happy with this 20-CD set. I got it for $15.99. The sound & mastering sound excellent.

    Later edit: I'm sorry, it was $29.99

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    Quote Originally Posted by millionrainbows View Post
    I'm happy with this 20-CD set. I got it for $15.99. The sound & mastering sound excellent.

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    What a steal. I'm not too into Bruckner but I do like getting a lot of music for cheap...

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