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    I really love this piece by Mozart, but I was just wondering, was Dies Irae created prior to Mozart's Requiem?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePRZC_OulYc

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    The Dies Irae is part of the mass used in the Roman Catholic church. Musical settings exist from several hundred years prior to Mozart. They are still being composed today.
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    Thank you KenOC

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    Ator, here's a more recent Dies Irae, not quite like Mozart's...



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    O wow thats neat. Thank you very much!
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    Ator, here's a more recent Dies Irae, not quite like Mozart's...


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    A couple of other famous "Dies Irae" moments.




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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    The Dies Irae is part of the mass used in the Roman Catholic church. Musical settings exist from several hundred years prior to Mozart. They are still being composed today.
    The Consilium felt that the funeral rite was in need of reform and eliminated the sequence as such from the Masses for the Dead. They got rid of texts that smacked of a negative spirituality inherited from the Middle Ages. Thus they removed the "Dies Irae", and others that overemphasized judgment, fear, and despair. These they replaced with texts urging Christian hope and arguably giving more effective expression to faith in the resurrection.

    But now, with his "tough love" philosophy, Dr. Phil is bringing it back. We apparently need judgement and fear in order to produce more efficient members of society.
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    Since KenOC already answered, I'll chime in and say I love both Mozart and Verdi's Dies Irae.

    I chose my username specifically because of Mozart's. His requiem still floors me every time I hear it.
    Last edited by DiesIraeCX; Oct-10-2014 at 19:11.
    "No composer has been more innovative than Beethoven, he radically changed the nature and character of the music composed in the two centuries that followed his earliest works" - Charles Rosen ("The Classical Style")

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    Imagine how good it would have been if he wrote the whole thing.
    Facts don't care about your feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    Imagine how good it would have been if he wrote the whole thing.
    Was the Dies irae his, or is that Sussmayr?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMike View Post
    Was the Dies irae his, or is that Sussmayr?
    The Dies Irae is Mozart's. Sussmayr's contributions come later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMike View Post
    Was the Dies irae his, or is that Sussmayr?
    If you read the man's comment he stated "his requiem still floors me every time I hear it."

    It was THAT comment I was responding to:

    "Imagine if Mozart wrote the whole thing."
    Last edited by hpowders; Oct-10-2014 at 22:41.
    Facts don't care about your feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahlerian View Post
    The Dies Irae is Mozart's. Sussmayr's contributions come later.
    Of course!!
    Facts don't care about your feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    If you read the man's comment he stated "his requiem still floors me every time I hear it."

    It was THAT comment I was responding to:

    "Imagine if Mozart wrote the whole thing."
    Yeah, I know. But I didn't know what parts were actually Mozart, and what parts were Sussmayr. Just wondering whether the Dies irae was actually his, as it is one of my favorite parts of the Requiem. Good to know that is still pure Mozart.

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