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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryShone View Post
    This is Ode to Joy on the Alto. No sheet music I just guessed the notes (I've played it on piano countless times)
    One of the nice things about the recorder is that it is pretty easy to play things by ear. I am currently trying to do it on guitar, and even simple tunes are a nightmare compared to doing them on recorder. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryShone View Post
    The thing is, should it be wood, or plastic?
    I have both plastic and wood recorders, but greatly prefer to play the plastic ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 76Trombones View Post
    I have both plastic and wood recorders, but greatly prefer to play the plastic ones.
    I do hope Larry read this, welcome to Talk Classical .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    I do hope Larry read this, welcome to Talk Classical .
    Yes I'm here. A lot has happened since I began recorder. Ive realised a good plastic recorder is better than a cheap wooden one. A good wooden recorder, especially an alto or tenor, can cost hundreds of pounds/dollars. But I was gifted a Yamaha alto which retails around about £40/$70. And its is a superb instrument. So easy to play and much easier to handle than a soprano/descant. I think that any adult taking up recorderfor the first time should start with the alto. It fits adult's finger much better and its easier to half hole/cross finger.
    I'm playing the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryShone View Post
    This is Ode to Joy on the Alto. No sheet music I just guessed the notes (I've played it on piano countless times)
    I was waiting for a snake to come out a of a basket...

    Just kidding. The recorder is a great sounding instrument. I used to play it at school. It's very popular here in the Netherlands with children and adults alike; the charity shops are heaving with old recorder sheet music and even instruments. They always turn up during the 'Festival Oudmuziek' in the summer.

    There is a recorder maker/retailer very close to me here called AAFAB (catchy name!) and they make all kinds of sizes. Sometimes I've wandered in and people are trying them out. I saw a young Chinese lad playing a wooden keyed one which had a lovely tone. I don't know the benefits of wood vs plastic, but I've never heard a bad wooden one.

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    My favourite thing about recorders is playing a top F# on a treble/alto using the right knee to partially close the pipe. At least you can do that; on a descant or tenor top C# is pretty much impossible.

    That, and in high school I was a member of a recorder group called All Wind and Bliss. There were 5 of us, we borrowed wooden instruments from somewhere or other, and won a competition playing Handel's Fireworks music, the score of which I had shoplifted from Theo's.

    True story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eugeneonagain View Post
    I was waiting for a snake to come out a of a basket...

    Just kidding. The recorder is a great sounding instrument. I used to play it at school. It's very popular here in the Netherlands with children and adults alike; the charity shops are heaving with old recorder sheet music and even instruments. They always turn up during the 'Festival Oudmuziek' in the summer.

    There is a recorder maker/retailer very close to me here called AAFAB (catchy name!) and they make all kinds of sizes. Sometimes I've wandered in and people are trying them out. I saw a young Chinese lad playing a wooden keyed one which had a lovely tone. I don't know the benefits of wood vs plastic, but I've never heard a bad wooden one.
    From what I've heard from a recorder group a plastic recorder is better than a cheap wooden one. And I can understand that.
    I'm playing the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryShone View Post
    From what I've heard from a recorder group a plastic recorder is better than a cheap wooden one. And I can understand that.
    What about a cheap plastic recorder versus a cheap wooden one?

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    Well plastic ones are very cheap anyway, especially the descant size! A £10 recorder would I imagine be way way better than a £10 wooden one!
    I'm playing the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order!

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    My favorite (these days) is Lucie Horsch. I love her "furioso" style of playing! She is all in every note every phrase every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffD View Post
    My favorite (these days) is Lucie Horsch. I love her "furioso" style of playing! She is all in every note every phrase every time.

    Is that a soprano she's using there? The piece is usually played on sopranino, which gets simply unbearably shrill after a minute or two. Better on the soprano, though I would actually prefer an alto.

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    Default Not many recorder enthusiasts on TC?

    I am new here and a first look seems to indicate interest in the baroque lies primarily in 17th century choral music.

    I am a modestly gifted septuagenarian with primary interest in the post Corelli era. I can do the Vivaldi concertos (except RV441), the Handel and Telemann sonatas, etc. My instruments are a Johann Adler maple alto, a Dolmetsch ABS soprano and a no-name wood sopranino which is too small for my hands to play. I recently bought an Aulos alto just because, and it will pretty much stay in the box. Sounds just fine, but the technique with the thumb hole is vastly different from the Adler making it hard to move from one to the other.


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    Ms Hosch is indeed very good. She is playing that concerto in G. I believe Dan Laurin also plays it in G on a soprano. Problem is that the last two flourishes in the last movement are in G and go up to D6. But we all know that C#6 is impossible on an C soprano. Perhaps the notes go by so fast that no one notices that C6 is played instead of the correct C#6?


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    I am very ashamed to admit I, too, once was a mocker of the recorder, saying it wasn't a "true" wind instrument. I have no clue how I came to such a mindset since I have always been fascinated with the history of woodwind instruments and should have known how important the recorder was in earlier eras (apparently I didn't). However, in recent years that finally set in. When I really started listening to Early Music was when that change happened, although it was only even more recently that I recognized the instruments I was hearing were recorders instead of some kind of early flute. That's also embarrassing for me to admit. >.< I can say I fell in love with the sound of recorders in early music and wanted to find out what kind of 'flute' was making that sound and then I was like "Oh!".

    I think part of what made the connection was discovering this lovely recorder ensemble recording of Thomas Tallis' 'O Sacrum Convivium' (a piece I have loved for many years now):



    It was then that the connection was made, it was the recorder making that gorgeous 'flute' sound I love in early music.

    Last month with my college graduation money I ended up buying me a tenor recorder, and I'm very happy and proud to have it in my collection and my arsenal of sounds. It is a surprisingly cheap instrument for such a beautiful, deep sound. I am in love. The tenor recorder really hurts my hands, though. Not used to not having keys, I suppose!

    I'm especially happy that it is the recorder I fell in love with and not a flute because I can not get a sound of a flute for the life of me. lol
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    Default Opinions on a purchase

    I own an Adler Magnamusic maple alto. Had if for nearly 40 years -- box says made in East Germany. Reading on the net, Adler seems to be considered no-name trash, but I like it. Nice sweet sound, is not chirpy like so many professional players, plays well to G6 and easily hits that C7 in the Telemann GTM C Sonata. But....


    I bought an Aulos tenor on a whim and primarily to play transverso music. Meh! Dull sounding, very touchy on thumb hole technique, Takes 10-15 minutes to warm up, wets up quickly and at importune moments. Yada, yada.

    I have a line on an Adler tenor for $85. Well used, but looks good in the pictures. Is it worth the risk? I really don't want to spend several 100's on a good name instrument. Probably won't

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