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    Normally mention of thos instrument sends people cringing, mainly due to the fact that years ago schoolkids were given them and sent home to drive their parents mad with the screech of an overblown devil's flute!
    And yet of course the recorder is a true orchestral instrument, or rather a chamber or consortium instrument. The thing is, should it be wood, or plastic? Wooden ones can be very expensive (Mollenhauer etc) while you can get a decent plastic one from Yamaha or Aulos for under £30!

    I don't have one yet and my partner is not keen on the sound it makes. Bad memories I supppose...

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    Hi,

    I have whole set in plastic (bass to sopranino) and I can say that for bass, a plastic one is easier to handle/maintain than wood. Decent plastic recorders sound better than cheap/abused wood recorders, but nothing can match nice, well maintained wooden recorders. My recommendation is to have a set in plastic while look for particular wood recorder (soprano or alto is a good candidate). No two wood recorders sound the same, so you have to take time for the search of the one you'll fall in love with. Oh, while you look, be careful for the fingerings!

    Recorder ensemble is fun, so good luck finding other recorder players! (Alas, at this moment, I don't have any. My kids refused to play with me for a reason I totally don't understand.)

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    Thanks satoru. I'm hoping one of my kids bring one home soon, but it seems unlikely.

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    I love the sound of the wooden recorders ... those that are used by professional ensembles. I have always wanted to learn to play them ... favorite range is Tenor recorder.

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    Interestingly I watched some youtube videos from a guy on selecting a recorder, and he was dead against wooden recorders. Kept saying Dont buy wooden ones. Original ones were made of bone he said and plastic is close to that original material. Said that they swell when wet, you cant touch the end without it deforming if it gets damp. Mind you he declared that he hated baroque music!
    I'm playing the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryShone View Post
    Interestingly I watched some youtube videos from a guy on selecting a recorder, and he was dead against wooden recorders. Kept saying Dont buy wooden ones. Original ones were made of bone he said and plastic is close to that original material. Said that they swell when wet, you cant touch the end without it deforming if it gets damp. Mind you he declared that he hated baroque music!
    Yeah, this is pretty much the reason why it is tough to maintain a wooden recorder, especially a bass (contrabass, too). Plastic recorders evolved quite a lot from the days I played them in a classroom. This is THE reason I recommended a plastic set over cheap/poorly maintained wooden recorders!

    Off the topic but a bone flute reminds me of Patricia McKillip's fantasy "Song for the Basilisk", a nice story with full of music and it's magic.

    mckillip-patricia-a-song-for-the-basilisk.jpg

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    Never learned how to play it -- pathetic, I know. In grade school, I nearly drove my music teacher crazy due my incompetence on the instrument.

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    I played recorder for many years, from the tenor to sopranino, and used to perform works ranging from the 12th-century troubadours to the late 15th-century (Josquin Desprez) to the 18th-century Baroque masters (Bach, Vivaldi, Handel, many others). I have some good instruments, mostly the Moeck Rottenburg series (modeled on the instruments of Jean Hyacinth-Joseph Rottenburg, 1672-1756). I haven't played much in recent years and am pretty rusty now.

    Just a few days ago, we lost one of the great virtuoso recorder players, Frans Brüggen. He was among the very first classical performers whose career I followed. I collected all his recorder performances from the 60s and 70s. Many were remarkable, but the astounding one was his performance of Bach's cello suites on recorder (he published the score of it -- it was the score that forced me to learn how to sightread the bass clef). A brilliant and innovative performer (and interpreter) from day one. Now he is now best known for his conducting--and what was revolutionary at the time, taking HIP into the classical era. Here's his performance from 1967 (in black-and-white, probably from Dutch television) playing solo Telemann's Fantasie #3. It is a fascinating glimpse of his virtuoso abilities.


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    Recorder player here!

    I studied at the Sydney Conservatorium of music, as a kid I learnt from a smaller regional Conseravtorium, where there was at least 30 of us on recorder. We had all sorts of ensembles and sounded fantastic. I always loved the instrument, and then when I went to high school I was accepted to a performing arts high school and everyone laughed at me.. until I played for them.

    Its a beautiful instrument when played well... however it is very difficult to keep face in the music world as a recorder player. I took up some brass and woodwind instruments, then more rock instruments, mainly due to the embarrassment of having to explain myself all the time.

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    I used to play the recorder in school. It was a soprano recorder. I think I will get an alto soon. I was very much inspired by this performance:

    [yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRTGLds9V_4[/yt]

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryShone View Post
    Interestingly I watched some youtube videos from a guy on selecting a recorder, and he was dead against wooden recorders. Kept saying Dont buy wooden ones. Original ones were made of bone he said and plastic is close to that original material. Said that they swell when wet, you cant touch the end without it deforming if it gets damp. Mind you he declared that he hated baroque music!
    I don't know whether what he says about those original recorders is necessarily true, but I am inclined to agree that one should start with a plastic instrument. Wooden ones are hideously expensive and require a lot of maintenance, and I am not convinced their sound is really all that much better - I have seen good players getting lovely sound out of plastic instruments.

    That said, one should not go for the very cheapest of plastic instruments - those are often just toys. And I would also avoid the soprano. It is the instrument primarily responsible for the general prejudice against the recorder, and for everyone's memories of hideous squeaking noises emerging from primary school music classes. Even when well played, it is still rather on the shrill side, and you might find your neighbours less than impressed. ;-)

    Not that I am an expert. I blow the occasional tune on my plastic alto, mostly with a homemade mute to keep the peace. But I have to say, in my humble opinion, there is not another woodwind with a sound as lovely as that of the recorder, and its initial relatively easy learning curve makes it an almost automatic choice for amateurs with relatively little time to practice.

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    Well a lot has changed since I started this. I got a recorder, of course an Aulos soprano (the only size my local shop has). I am not overly keen on the sound and after watching numerous videos and with no chance to try the different sizes I bought an Aulos keyless tenor. Very hard to play but the sound is fantastic. Then recently someone sent me a Yamaha Alto and its lovely. So now I have 3 plastic recorders which I have to remove myself from the room to learn to play!
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    I'm playing the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryShone View Post
    Well a lot has changed since I started this. I got a recorder, of course an Aulos soprano (the only size my local shop has). I am not overly keen on the sound and after watching numerous videos and with no chance to try the different sizes I bought an Aulos keyless tenor. Very hard to play but the sound is fantastic. Then recently someone sent me a Yamaha Alto and its lovely. So now I have 3 plastic recorders which I have to remove myself from the room to learn to play!
    One day I want to blow a few tunes on a tenor. Can't afford one at the moment, not even a plastic one, and keyless ones are actually difficult to get hold of around here.

    In some ways the tenor is really the one to go for: it isn't as shrill, has a lovely, mellow sound, and what's more, almost the entire Classical (with a capital C) era flute repertoire is also playable on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianvds View Post
    One day I want to blow a few tunes on a tenor. Can't afford one at the moment, not even a plastic one, and keyless ones are actually difficult to get hold of around here.

    In some ways the tenor is really the one to go for: it isn't as shrill, has a lovely, mellow sound, and what's more, almost the entire Classical (with a capital C) era flute repertoire is also playable on it.
    It is a beautiful instrument but it takes some getting used to, and it needs big hands. I should maybe have paid a bit more and got one with keys but money is really tight here.
    I'm playing the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order!

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    This is Ode to Joy on the Alto. No sheet music I just guessed the notes (I've played it on piano countless times)
    I'm playing the right notes, but not necessarily in the right order!

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