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    This gentleman is Joseph Baggers de Caster, born 1858. Photo is from the early 20th century. Things are much different in the percussion world now!

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    Those are some enormous drums! Probably wouldn't have sounded very loud on record though- did he make records? (I haven't noticed any drum solos on the records of that vintage I listen to, but mine are all vocal!)

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    That's just regular timpani. Is that a keyboard glockenspiel to the right though? And what in the world is to the lower right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matsoljare View Post
    That's just regular timpani. Is that a keyboard glockenspiel to the right though? And what in the world is to the lower right?
    keyboard glockenspiel = Celeste

    Poor guy, though, only four tubular chimes vs. a chromatic set with a damper pedal~

    ...and on the right -- whoa, would love to know the name of that (and its historic lifespan, lol.)
    NB the nodes on the cylinder -- just like a music box, but those strike the long wooden 'teeth.' and set at five pitches, what a big thing for a limited effect it is!

    I want those two foundry bells, see he has a pair of 'antique cymbals,' and the marching band 'bell-tree' is a nice touch :-)
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    Ooh, how interesting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrudolph View Post
    This gentleman is Joseph Baggers de Caster, born 1858. Photo is from the early 20th century. Things are much different in the percussion world now!

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    He could be this bloke's ancestor:

    https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.6080...7&pid=15.1&P=0
    '...a violator of his word, a libertine over head and ears in debt and disgrace, a despiser of domestic ties, the companion of gamblers and demireps, a man who has just closed half a century without a single claim on the gratitude of his country or the respect of posterity...' - Leigh Hunt on the Prince Regent (later George IV).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrB View Post
    ...and on the right -- whoa, would love to know the name of that (and its historic lifespan, lol.)
    NB the nodes on the cylinder -- just like a music box, but those strike the long wooden 'teeth.' and set at five pitches, what a big thing for a limited effect it is!
    Somewhere, Papageno is lying dead in a ditch. Or possibly the timpani is an acid bath.
    This space for rent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matsoljare View Post
    That's just regular timpani. Is that a keyboard glockenspiel to the right though? And what in the world is to the lower right?
    Thank for the info, I thought a timpani was some kind of little thing like you shake at nursery school (where most of my formal musical education took place, LOL) I'd better not try to guess what the rest of his percussion paraphernalia is!

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    Did they really play timpani tipped at an angle like that or was that just for the photo? I suppose if you're used to an angle from playing snare drum, it could make some kind of sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrB View Post
    keyboard glockenspiel = Celeste
    I'm pretty sure the keyboard glockenspiel is a different instrument to the celeste. Messiaen calls for both celeste and keyboard glockenspiel in his Turangalila-Symphonie, along with a standard mallet glockenspiel.
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    Is that the R Rudolph I think it is? If so, hello, and I hope to see you again at PASIC.

    Can you divulge the source of this photo?

    Many thanks,
    Matt.

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    Hi Matt,

    It is indeed me. I will be at PASIC this year. I can't remember where I got that picture, but I think it might have appeared in his timpani method book http://www.worldcat.org/title/method.../oclc/11066796

    See you in San Antonio!!

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    Great. Thanks. I hope that is the case - I ordered the book yesterday. I found this forum and your photo in the process of searching for it.

    See you in San Antonio!

    Quote Originally Posted by rrudolph View Post
    Hi Matt,

    It is indeed me. I will be at PASIC this year. I can't remember where I got that picture, but I think it might have appeared in his timpani method book http://www.worldcat.org/title/method.../oclc/11066796

    See you in San Antonio!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrB View Post
    ...and on the right -- whoa, would love to know the name of that (and its historic lifespan, lol.)
    NB the nodes on the cylinder -- just like a music box, but those strike the long wooden 'teeth.' and set at five pitches, what a big thing for a limited effect it is!

    I want those two foundry bells, see he has a pair of 'antique cymbals,' and the marching band 'bell-tree' is a nice touch :-)
    The wooden music box device is called a "Fusillade", it is to immitate the sound of gunshots being fired in a battle. The marching band bell tree has many names - Chinese Hat, Turkish Crescent, Jingling Johnny.

    Best,
    Matt.

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