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    Default Monteverdi, Claudio (1567-1643)

    Monteverdi!


    Handsome devil. Composed some really early operas, some cutting-edge madrigals back when that was a thing, and (despite Rachmaninoff) the most famous vespers ever.

    Here is a short list of recommendations, and I look forward to hearing others' suggestions.

    This is a fantastic DVD of a fantastic production by any standard. One of my favorite opera DVDs by any composer.

    On CD, I have only Gardiner's recording, and it is good enough.

    I've heard three other recordings of some of Monteverdi's madrigals, and none of them are bad, but this is the only complete set I've heard and it is a gem. I predict that La Venexiana will remain the recordings to hear for at least a decade!

    Don't get hung up on the album cover. This recording has been released multiple times and by different labels because it is the one. In terms of popularity, Gardiner is a close second. There are a lot of other recordings to choose from.... If I can get away with offering an idiosyncratic choice despite my lack of knowledge in the field, I'd mention Junghanel, and maybe Koopman. And for a contrast, maybe the Scholars Baroque Ensemble on Naxos.

    Happy listening. This is some stuff you don't want to miss.

    What have I missed?
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    Unbeliavable!

    Monteverdi's thread was missing!

    Bravo, science



    Possibly Rinaldo Alessandrini with his ensemble Concerto Italiano are my favourite performers of most of his works:


    Vespro della Beata Vergine


    L'Orfeo


    The Madrigals (here the cover of the fourth book)

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    This most lately blew me away:

    THE FULL MONTEVERDI ~ A film by John La Bouchardière
    Madrigals, Book 4; I Fagiolini; Robert Hollingworth, music director
    http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item...._code=2.110224
    The singing is superb, one voice per part as it should be, and these are dramatically staged (very quietly) and done in modern dress. Great performance, quite directly moving.
    [ ADD: The entire body of Monteverdi's Madrigals is (imo) one of the greater monuments from all of music history... amazing and completely fluid writing, astonishing use of harmony, immediately expressive. END ADD ]

    Jordi Savall et alia in this performance of Orfeo (I'm a blindly adoring Savall fan) I would hope is available in a recording or DVD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5ApwAKw5fc

    I have only seen a production of L'incoronazione di Poppea so have no recording to recommend, but strongly recommend the opera.

    This gem of a song is I'm sure part of a collection on one disc, which I'm sure you can find by an easy search using the names of the group, director, singers (also listed in the link.)
    I think the performance is, everyone involved, superb
    "Zefiro torna" ;Nuria Rial (soprano); Philippe Jaroussky (countertenor); L'Arpeggiata (direction: Christina Pluhar)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6tJWY2Vaz4

    P.s. It really is surprising there was not already a Monteverdi thread... one of my most favored composers. Good going!
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    An absolutely shocking omission from the Composer Guestbook. Well done Science for rectifying this so quickly.
    Monteverdi is an amazing composer. I can't really add to the eloquence of PetrB.
    Suffice to say that L'Orfeo, the Vespers and the Complete Madrigals are amongst my A-list CDs.

    I've also seen THE FULL MONTEVERDI. Great performances indeed. It pops up on Sky Arts every now and again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagneticGhost View Post
    Suffice to say that L'Orfeo [is on my] A-list...
    ditto

    I might eventually get it. I was bowled over last night, when I sampled it.

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    I tend to listen to the San Giovanni Battista vespers more than the San Marco ones, partly because I like the recording that Leonhardt made. For the San Marco Vespers, I have and like the old recording with Jürgen Jürgens, not the one Jürgens made with Harnoncourt.

    For Combattimento, I remember being impressed by how Monteverdi, in the preface, talks about how he's exploring warlike emotions, Harnoncourt's outstanding at revealing this. I like Vartolo too, because it's got this feel of something very very old.

    I'd like to get to know Selva Morale et Spirituale better.

    For the madrigals, I'm particularly fond of the a cappella ones in Bk 4. I've enjoyed the old performances by Leppard aswell as La Venexiana and Alessandrini.

    For the operas, on CD I enjoyed Ensemble Elyma. And on DVD I enjoyed the Ponnelle productions. What I like most about Monteverdi operas, apart from the recitative style, is the fact that it's so erudite, he's like Shakespeare in that respect.

    I would like to have the music that Seneca sings before he learns of his execution at my funeral. Another thing I like is the wrestler's music in Ulisse. Henze's orchestration of Ulysse is well worth exploring.

    One of the most moving things I've ever seen was an Orfeo in London, semi staged by Jonathan Miller, with Bostridge and Cioffi. The moment when Charon leads Orfeo down the Styx, the sole prop an oar, was unforgettable.

    I wonder if anyone knows about pre HIP recordings of the operas - there are wonderful things in Leppard's recording of Incoronazione with Vickers. Having said that I think the old recording of madrigals with Boulanger made with Cuenod is dreadful. One good old one is some very characterful madrigals sung by New York Pro Musica, there's a transfer on symphonyshare.

    I think Monteverdi was a greater composer than J.S Bach. Of operas.
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    Yesterday I bought the tickets for me and (exceptionally!) my wife for L'Incoronazione di Poppea at la Scala:

    http://www.teatroallascala.org/en/se...of-poppea.html

    A Robert Wilson production already staged in Paris last year, conducted by Rinaldo Alessandrini,



    We'll go on February 27, when tickets are sold at half their price

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    Quote Originally Posted by GioCar View Post
    Yesterday I bought the tickets for me and (exceptionally!) my wife for L'Incoronazione di Poppea at la Scala:

    http://www.teatroallascala.org/en/se...of-poppea.html

    A Robert Wilson production already staged in Paris last year, conducted by Rinaldo Alessandrini,



    We'll go on February 27, when tickets are sold at half their price
    I hope you enjoy it. Sometimes I think that Robert Wilson's operas are a bit samey -- slick light tricks and stylised walking.

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    I really highly recommend this book. The author takes the time to really dig into L'orefo, Combattimento, Ulisse, and Poppea and makes you appreciate all the little choices Monteverdi made musically to highlight the emotional meaning behind the texts. Truly eye-opening. I come away from each reading session in absolute amazement at his genius.

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    On top of the above listed albums, I'd recommend:

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    LK

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    I just bougth this:
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    Orfeo
    Il ritorno di Ulisse in patria
    L'incoronazione di Poppea
    I have nothing to say and I am saying it and that is poetry." - John Cage

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    Quote Originally Posted by The nose View Post
    I just bougth this:
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    Orfeo
    Il ritorno di Ulisse in patria
    L'incoronazione di Poppea
    Outstanding, bold and energetic perfomances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrB View Post
    This gem of a song is I'm sure part of a collection on one disc, which I'm sure you can find by an easy search using the names of the group, director, singers (also listed in the link.)
    I think the performance is, everyone involved, superb
    "Zefiro torna" ;Nuria Rial (soprano); Philippe Jaroussky (countertenor); L'Arpeggiata (direction: Christina Pluhar)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6tJWY2Vaz4
    My favorite Monteverdi CD in fact
    Monteverdi: Teatro d'amore
    recorded by Christina Pluhar and L'arpeggiata
    Heather W. Reichgott, piano
    http://heatherwreichgott.blogspot.com

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    I've not yet decided whether to buy it or not... (i've several madrigals boxes: Alessandrini, The brilliant classics one, Rooley, I fagiolini)

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    your view/opinion is more than welcome
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    A fantastic video from BBC



    LK
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