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    Quote Originally Posted by Headphone Hermit View Post
    Sir Colin Davis - excellent - dead
    I am reminded of the story of the tenor performing at La Scala. He finished his aria and there was total silence until one person started shouting "bravo, encore", so he obliged. When he had finished again there was still silence except for the one voice "encore, encore ... you will keep singing it until you get it right."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    Not really. Think of Zimerman doing the Chopin concertos. Or Gastinel playing Brahms cello sonatas. Or Harnonourt and Aimard in Beethoven op 15. Or Zilberstein playing Schubert D850. Or Roger Muraro playing Rachmaninov Moments Musicaux. Or Pletnev playing Grieg Lyric pieces (his first recording.) Or Harnoncourt or Gielen doing the Missa Solemnis (the DVD) Or Abbado playing the Brahms Requiem. Or Fassbaender singing Dichterliebe. Or Villazon in Don Carlos, or his Boheme with Gheorghiu. Or some of Abbado's Mahler with the Lausanne orchestra, after his cancer scare. That's without thinking too hard.
    Villazon? Is there a single tenor from a hundred years ago whose records- any of them- compare unfavourably with any of Villazon's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Figleaf View Post
    Villazon? Is there a single tenor from a hundred years ago whose records- any of them- compare unfavourably with any of Villazon's?
    He did an oustanding Tales of Hoffman, peerless, and an exceptional Don Carlo, and when I saw him in Boheme in London it was as good as any, including Pavi. (I don't know if this was recorded.) I think he didn't fulfill the promise of those early years, but I'm not sure because I haven't followed opera very much over the past 10 years or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandryka View Post
    He did an oustanding Tales of Hoffman, peerless, and an exceptional Don Carlo, and when I saw him in Boheme in London it was as good as any, including Pavi. (I don't know if this was recorded.) I think he didn't fulfill the promise of those early years, but I'm not sure because I haven't followed opera very much over the past 10 years or so.
    Who is Pavi? I googled him, but couldn't find anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StlukesguildOhio View Post
    I wouldn't exactly call Kleiber's 5th a "recent" recording. It dates from 1975, prior to CDs and digital recording. It's 40 years old. Pollini's Beethoven also dates from 1975. Again not a strong argument for the strength of "recent" or contemporary recordings.
    Sorry about that. This example should be an example that fits more into your paramaters .

    I think that Sol Gabetta's performance of the Shostakovich Cello Concerto is comparable to me as much as the Rostropovich version:




    Same with Yo-Yo Ma's version too just as much as Rostropovich's.


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    I'd put Yo-Yo Ma's version of almost any cello piece as a contender for best performance. His style really meshes with my own musical sensibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headphone Hermit View Post
    Sir Colin Davis - excellent - dead
    Oh my dear Headphone Hermit you made me laugh. I have actually said those exact words "in real life" out loud and amidst the laughter from my companions I am told that I'm am terrible or that I'm a bad man. *sigh* He is most defiantly dead though.

    Oh and I quite excellent!

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    Last edited by Fox; Feb-23-2015 at 01:32. Reason: & quite excellent!
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    Quote Originally Posted by albertfallickwang View Post
    Sorry about that. This example should be an example that fits more into your paramaters .

    I think that Sol Gabetta's performance of the Shostakovich Cello Concerto is comparable to me as much as the Rostropovich version:




    Same with Yo-Yo Ma's version too just as much as Rostropovich's.

    I don't know if I agree I just liked because well you posted cello videos and that deserves a like.

    I'm not a fan of Ma...

    Well to be fair I saw him once and wasn't impressed but I don't know if I should revisit his work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    I don't know if I agree I just liked because well you posted cello videos and that deserves a like.

    I'm not a fan of Ma...

    Well to be fair I saw him once and wasn't impressed but I don't know if I should revisit his work?
    Yes, Ma for some cello concertos can be a bit bland but this performance is just incredible. Enjoy the Youtube version .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headphone Hermit View Post
    Sir Colin Davis - excellent - dead
    OK so you got me, Colin Davis is dead and your powers of observation are commendable. But before I too come to the conclusion that noone can do it like they did in the good old days, I would like to point out some other recordings by musicians who have yet to "buy the farm" or "take a dirt nap" that I mentioned too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgee View Post
    OK so you got me, Colin Davis is dead and your powers of observation are commendable. But before I too come to the conclusion that noone can do it like they did in the good old days, I would like to point out some other recordings by musicians who have yet to "buy the farm" or "take a dirt nap" that I mentioned too.
    Colin Davis' version of the Haydn symphonies are awesome... A1 sauce to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albertfallickwang View Post
    Colin Davis' version of the Haydn symphonies are awesome... A1 sauce to me.
    A1 sauce? Is that a compliment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMamba View Post
    A1 sauce? Is that a compliment?
    A1 Sauce me thinks? *shrugs*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    A1 Sauce me thinks? *shrugs*
    I love A1 sauce on my inexpensive meat.

    http://www.kraftrecipes.com/recipes/...1-recipes.aspx

    Some great recipes involving the humble condiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox View Post
    A1 Sauce me thinks? *shrugs*
    Yeah, I know what it is. Wasn't sure that was a compliment.

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