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    Default Do you take the guitar seriously as a musical instrument?

    I am a musician,i play two instruments.one,the piano,is instantly recognised and respected,the other,the guitar,is not.The guitar is by far my favourite instrument,it is incredibly personla,there are hundreds of different inflections you can put onn a single note!Experimental tunings,multiple strings,various slides,such a wide array of sounds is possible!And yet it is unappreciated in the classical world!I feel the guitar is more expressive than the piano as i favour it's tone and the amount of control over the notes,the personal aspects of it!I could ramble on for hours... but i'll try to stick to the point,I also love electric guitar which is NOT as violent as it seems but that is a matter for another day,the point is I am appealing to those who dislike my instrument,who here doesn't like guitar!?

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    i don't know anyone who doesn't like guitar.
    more expressive than piano? no, not more.

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    Not sure how to quantify expressive, though there certainly is a lot you can do on it. Depends.. are you talking acoustic or electric? I find the range of things you can do to be greater on an electric than acoustic, though the acoustic has something the electric can't seem to get no matter how much sound engineering comes out. Likewise with piano, though it's all in how you use them. The sound of a piano too is naturally expressive, in my opinion. I think the main problem is that many guitarists don't know how to use distortion well, or that's all they play it with, but properly used, you can get some amazing things on out an electric. Of course, I don't play piano, so feel free anyone to correct me based on experience.

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    I gave myself a hernia trying to bend notes on a Steinway once....
    Finger vibrato doesn`t work too well either.

    The "guitars arent proper musical instruments argument I think died out long time ago.
    The knotty part since the repertoire for classical guitar was rediscovered is whether or not the other sorts of guitars are socially acceptable in polite (read classical) circles.

    Not sure it is really relevant, personally.
    People like what they like, respect what they respect.

    And try taking a piano on holiday with you.

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    Music should not be as light as you can carry to holiday.

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    There is a LOT you can do on a guitar. Try Einojuhani Rautavaara's Serenades of the Unicorn:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mByi-i6nW8E

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atabey View Post
    Music should not be as light as you can carry to holiday.
    And of course you have a valid, rational argument to back that up?

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    Jesus Christ of course the guitar is considered a serious instrument (I'm sorry but I cannot think otherwise)! On the classical world I think the classical guitar do the trick. There's a wide repertoire being explored and/or waiting to be played. I play both guitars (classical and electric), I love metal music, but I have a special love for my classical guitar, for the studies I play by Dionísio Aguado, Carulli, Pujol, the wonderful and sad songs composed by Tarrega... No need to mention Villa-Lobos, who wrote wonderful pieces for classical guitar. A real shame if someone still thinks the guitar is just used to play rock/pop songs and to entertain groups of teenangers by the fireplace.
    I think you wont get answers if you ask if someone doesn't like the guitar (the intrument). The guitar is present in lots of crap you ear these days. Probably you get the bad reactions to the guitar because of that and because people doesn't know classical guitar repertoire or don't ever care to search further.

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    The classical guitar IS used in classical music. Try Joaquín Rodrigo - Fantasia para un Gentilhombre, or Concierto de Aranjuez that you can see here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Wgo...eature=related

    By the way, the theme from second movement was used by the Japanese jazz singer Kimiko Itoh for her tune "Follow Me" featured in Ghost in the Shell: Innocence anime film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Terrible View Post
    And of course you have a valid, rational argument to back that up?
    No,i do not and I am in no need to find one.That is my subjective view on music.This is music we are talking about,there is nothing harmful about being subjective making it and talking about it.If you need every single statement in a forum backed up by valid and rational arguments then i suggest you take a look at a maths forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themusicismymaster View Post
    I am a musician,i play two instruments.one,the piano,is instantly recognised and respected,the other,the guitar,is not.The guitar is by far my favourite instrument,it is incredibly personla,there are hundreds of different inflections you can put onn a single note!Experimental tunings,multiple strings,various slides,such a wide array of sounds is possible!And yet it is unappreciated in the classical world!I feel the guitar is more expressive than the piano as i favour it's tone and the amount of control over the notes,the personal aspects of it!I could ramble on for hours... but i'll try to stick to the point,I also love electric guitar which is NOT as violent as it seems but that is a matter for another day,the point is I am appealing to those who dislike my instrument,who here doesn't like guitar!?
    Classical guitar (not acoustic, electric, bass) is a great instrument, i play spanish guitar by myself and i love it. I would say that then you play a piece to an unexperienced listener he is wondered how you can make so much sound from that piece of wood. I know because i felt the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atabey View Post
    No,i do not and I am in no need to find one.That is my subjective view on music.This is music we are talking about,there is nothing harmful about being subjective making it and talking about it.If you need every single statement in a forum backed up by valid and rational arguments then i suggest you take a look at a maths forum.

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    The Portuguese Guitar...


    ... and music played by one of our best guitarists, Carlos Paredes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhngK6ha84Y

    I don't know how to play this one... Not for my skills, unfortunately. Definitely, a serious instrument

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    classical guitar is a great music instrument, we have the polyphony, the harmony and a large choice about the sound's color. Me too, I play the guitar and the piano, and I think the guitar is better than the piano about the musical expression, but it's a guitarist view point ^^
    The classical guitar repertoir is too unreconized, it's a pity. So LISTEN TO CLASSICAL GUITAR lol

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