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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post


    I'm no Berlioz expert, but I am very happy with this set.
    The sound is great and I like the casts as well.
    I don't feel the need to buy other versions of these works.
    Oh, and the price is a steal.
    I've only heard the Damnation of Faust and Troyens on that box set and neither would be my first choice recording for the operas. Have you heard the Nelson recording of Troyens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    I've only heard the Damnation of Faust and Troyens on that box set and neither would be my first choice recording for the operas. Have you heard the Nelson recording of Troyens?

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    No sir, I haven't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    I've only heard the Damnation of Faust and Troyens on that box set and neither would be my first choice recording for the operas. Have you heard the Nelson recording of Troyens?

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    I have never heard Dutoit's recording but have (had) an LP of the original Davis (the box set with the fancy books in it), and have the second Davis. I have also heard the Nelson recording and, as much as I like both DiDonato and Nelson (his Benvenuto Cellini is superb), I was slightly disappointed with it. My preference is for Gardiner's DVD from Théâtre du Châtelet with the ORR, Gregory Kunde as Aeneas, Susan Graham as Dido and Anna Caterina Antonacci as Cassandra. The latter particularly is quite stunning (almost literally) in her intensity. Other than the principals, it is a mostly Francophone cast. While Kunde is not in the same heroic mold as Vickers, neither does he overwhelm everyone, the beautiful act 4 duet being a perfect example. While the performance falls down in two respects, some of the costumes and using an earlier version of the ending which doesn't work as well, the rest has a magic of a real performance enhanced by the use of an original instruments orchestra - a difference which shows itself in the bold, brassy sections. So, my ranking would be Gardiner, probably a tie between Nelson and Davis II, then Davis I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    No sir, I haven't.
    Then you should! It's well worth seeking out on YouTube and whilst I've always liked and appreciated Troyens as an opera, my enjoyment of it increased greatly on listening to the Nelson set with its three superb singers in the main parts.

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    For me, it’s:

    1. Dutoit
    2. Nelson
    3. Davis ‘69
    4. Davis ‘01

    The Nelson is a revaluation and I just prefer the casts of it, and Dutoit, to Davis. They are all good, and enjoyable in their own ways, but I turn to the first two far more often than the Davis ‘69 and I never listen to the Davis ‘01 anymore.

    Sorry, to me, Davis is plodding and boring in the '69 recording, and the cast ins't that great. The '01 recording is better tempo wise, but again, not the best cast.

    The Dutoit is exciting and I believe Dutoit had more insight into the score than Davis. It's also better cast. I can say the same thing about Nelson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsaraslondon View Post
    I've heard it, but aside from the wonderful Lorraine Hunt Lieberson, I didn't think it had much else to commend it. On this showing, Levine is definitely not a Berlioz conductor, and the rest of the cast aren't up to much.]
    Can't argue with this, I got it strictly for Lorraine and not Levine. Just wanted to add it to the roster.

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