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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    I'm going for the 52 too DA.
    Found them even cheaper at importcds
    The 1952 Myto Keilberth Ring is too good to pass up at these low prices, plus you saved even more by not paying insane $4 shipping per CD at Amazon

    Also don't forget the vendor I posted with free shipping over $50......

    http://www.norpete.com/

    These can be expensive at Amazon but vendor above has huge Myto sale now, $14 each for 4CD sets and $7 for 2CD sets, orders over $50 ship free with fast service!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post


    Hines' Wotan has to be heard to be believed!!!!!!
    Awesome.....................
    The 1960 Myto Kempe Ring is truely impressive , the Bayreuth sound is really excellent, should be right at the top of the list for best Rings .......

    You and duck are right about Jerome Hines, I was not really aware of him previously but listened to disk 3 with Wotan delivering punishment to the defiant Valkyre Brunnhilde summoning the wall of fire, what a commanding performance! Such a deep powerful voice, yet capable of vocally showing the conflicted emotion of Wotan as he must deal with his beloved Brunnhilde

    Just for reference I pulled out the 1955 stereo Testament Keilberth and in some ways the sound is even better on the 1960 Myto Kempe, so impressive we must spread the word.....
    Last edited by DarkAngel; Apr-19-2015 at 19:19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    The 1960 Myto Kempe Ring is truely impressive , the Bayreuth sound is really excellent, should be right at the top of the list for best Rings .......

    You and duck are right about Jerome Hines, I was not really aware of him previously but listened to disk 3 with Wotan delivering punishment to the defiant Valkyre Brunnhilde summoning the wall of fire, what a commanding performance! Such a deep powerful voice, yet capable of showing the conflicted emotion of Wotan as he must deal with his beloved Brunnhilde

    Just for reference I pulled out the 1955 stereo Testament Keilberth and in some ways the sound is even better on the 1960 Myto Kempe, so impressive we must spread the word.....
    Yes, especially with that other Kempe Ring out there in bad sound. Kempe fans need to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post


    These Walhall remasters are now available at Amazon USA sellers very cheap for 1958 Knappy Ring, I have ordered a couple to check them out.......claims to be from original broadcast tapes with 26/96 remaster, the cast is the best of the best
    Let me know what you think of these DA. Very interested in the 57 or 58.

    I love this thread.

    ps listened to 52 Keilberth Rheingold and Walkure last night and today on utube and LOVED them.
    Last edited by Itullian; Apr-20-2015 at 01:47.
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    My 52 Keilberth set has shipped...............
    YAYYYYYYYYYYYY
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    DA
    I listened to a couple of the Knap Walhall's on Presto and it sounded very clear except the voices seemed WAY out front.
    Did you find that too?
    Or is it just me or my pc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    DA
    I listened to a couple of the Knap Walhall's on Presto and it sounded very clear except the voices seemed WAY out front.
    Did you find that too?
    Or is it just me or my pc?


    Good idea, I didn't check Presto UK and they do have longer higher quality samples.........

    We have a winner for sure, you may have listened to a couple tracks where singer was closer to mike stand but as they move around stage the perspective changes and it sounds pretty normal to me, and very high quality! I go right to act 3 disc 3 of Walkure and Astrid Varnay is divinely radiant as she is resigned to her fate at the hands of a reluctant Wotan, orchestra is very clear I can hear deep into the sound mix, magnificent I tell you.....

    http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Walhall/WLCD0247

    We got a great price from importcds.com compared to Presto UK, I will have to completely rethink my top five Ring list now with Myto 1960 Kempe, Walhall 1958 Knappy, and Myto 1952 Keilberth in the house
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post


    Good idea, I didn't check Presto UK and they do have longer higher quality samples.........

    We have a winner for sure, you may have listened to a couple tracks where singer was closer to mike stand but as they move around stage the perspective changes and it sounds pretty normal to me, and very high quality! I go right to act 3 disc 3 of Walkure and Astrid Varnay is divinely radiant as she is resigned to her fate at the hands of a reluctant Wotan, orchestra is very clear I can hear deep into the sound mix, magnificent I tell you.....

    http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Walhall/WLCD0247

    We got a great price from importcds.com compared to Presto UK, I will have to completely rethink my top five Ring list now with 1960 Kempe, 1958 Knappy, and 1952 Keilberth in the house
    Any particular reason you chose the 58 over the 57?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    Any particular reason you chose the 58 over the 57?
    At first glance the overall 1958 cast looks stronger (second glance also confirms this) but we are talking about the greatest Wagner singers post WWII Bayreuth in the 1950s, how do you choose......

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    That importcds price was fantastic, huh?
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    Such a miracle that we get to hear these performances from those years.
    In such good sound.
    And as often as we like.
    Amazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    Such a miracle that we get to hear these performances from those years.
    In such good sound.
    And as often as we like.
    Amazing
    CD remasters, Spotify and Tidal streaming, youtube........we are like gods in Valhalla!


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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    CD remasters, Spotify and Tidal streaming, youtube........we are like gods in Valhalla!

    Awesome DA
    From the Met production I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    CD remasters, Spotify and Tidal streaming, youtube........we are like gods in Valhalla!
    Ah, but heed well the words of Loge!

    They hasten to their end,
    though they think themselves strong and enduring.
    I am almost ashamed
    to share their doings;
    my fancy lures me
    to transform myself
    back into flickering flames.
    To burn them
    who once tamed me,
    rather than foolishly end
    with the blind,
    even though they be the most godlike gods,
    does not seem stupid to me.
    I'll think it over:
    who knows what I will do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    Ah, but heed well the words of Loge!

    They hasten to their end,
    though they think themselves strong and enduring.
    I am almost ashamed
    to share their doings;
    my fancy lures me
    to transform myself
    back into flickering flames.
    To burn them
    who once tamed me,
    rather than foolishly end
    with the blind,
    even though they be the most godlike gods,
    does not seem stupid to me.
    I'll think it over:
    who knows what I will do?
    Warning heeded

    That's a great scene isn't it
    When all else fails, listen to Thick as a Brick.

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