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    Another less-known composer, but worth talking about. The symphonies are the extent of my familiarity with his work. The likeness of Beethoven is uncanny at times, particularly in his fifth symphony (with a powerhouse like Beethoven's 5th, I guess he just couldn't resist ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rondo View Post
    Another less-known composer, but worth talking about. The symphonies are the extent of my familiarity with his work. The likeness of Beethoven is uncanny at times, particularly in his fifth symphony (with a powerhouse like Beethoven's 5th, I guess he just couldn't resist ).
    Judging by the Wikipedia article, he had somewhat a visual likeness to Beethoven as well, and was his pupil and copiest.

    I've got to check him out. You can never have too many ersatz Beethovens if they are good ones.

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    Great to see another "forgotten" composer mentioned. I can highly recommend 2 Volumes of his works for piano & orchestra, released by Naxos fairly recently. As with the symphonies, more than a hint of Beethoven appears from time to time, but well worth listening to none the less.

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    Ferdinand Ries-

    Pieces I have by Ries

    -The 8 symphonies

    This composer is a really good one! A student of Beethoven, I definitely recommend. You can tell he is the student of Beethoven too. He has his teachers fire, while having the refinement of someone like Mozart or Schubert, a perfect hybrid. The Ries symphonies are really great. Number 1 opens up with a really strange and surprising chord. The 5th symphony has obvious homages to his teachers 5th symphony. The finale of the sixth is really fun! These symphonies are very dramatic (for their time) and also very structurally satisfying. I almost enjoy these symphonies more than Beethoven's even though they aren't as revolutionary. Perhaps I've been overexposed to Beethoven's symphonies. But I definitely love Ries' great explorations in the form.

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    I tihnk his chamber music and his piano concertos are better than his symphonies. Definitely a composer worth checking out.
    I treat my music like I treat my pets. It’s something to own, care about and curate with attention to detail. From a blog by hjr.

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    I’m intrigued.......I know of him but never heard his music, has anyone got a link to a recommended work?

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    of course



    coming exactly the era of Beethoven early and middle quartets. that should be enough curiosity.

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    I have the CPO disk volume 2 and I listen the late F minor quartet pretty regulary/

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    I have those CPO discs pictured above plus other concertos and chamber music, which are very enjoyable. He belongs to the next tier of lesser known composers that I would group, along with say Louis Spohr. Definitely worth the time spent listening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rondo View Post
    Another less-known composer, but worth talking about. The symphonies are the extent of my familiarity with his work. The likeness of Beethoven is uncanny at times, particularly in his fifth symphony (with a powerhouse like Beethoven's 5th, I guess he just couldn't resist ).
    His string quartets are also good.

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    I like his chamber music, a lot. Somehow it feels like a missing link between Beethoven and Brahms. In my books, Beethoven is out of this world, unreachable, and somewhat cold because of my limited capacity. Brahms, otoh, I feel more accessible. That's why I think Ries is interesting to me personally.

    His symphonies are too much Beethoven. Well, not exactly, his personal voice is clear and distinct, but there is too much of Ludvig Van in there. Brahms did that much better way.

    I'm sorry about bringing Brahms also here, can't help it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenny View Post
    I like his chamber music, a lot. Somehow it feels like a missing link between Beethoven and Brahms. In my books, Beethoven is out of this world, unreachable, and somewhat cold because of my limited capacity. Brahms, otoh, I feel more accessible. That's why I think Ries is interesting to me personally.

    His symphonies are too much Beethoven. Well, not exactly, his personal voice is clear and distinct, but there is too much of Ludvin Van in there. Brahms did that much better way.

    I'm sorry about bringing Brahms also here, can't help it

    I do agree with you by almost all means, except the Brahms part .

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    Introduced to Ries by my friend Jerry (jandl100).
    Only tried the symphonies so far and I am enthralled. The similarity to LVB is very obvious but not annoying in any way.
    Must try the chamber stuff. What a find!

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    If you like piano concertos, he wrote some fine ones (3, 9, and 5 are all very good).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanB View Post
    Introduced to Ries by my friend Jerry (jandl100).
    Only tried the symphonies so far and I am enthralled. The similarity to LVB is very obvious but not annoying in any way.
    Must try the chamber stuff. What a find!
    Actually, I am Jerry on here.

    Yes, Ries is a recent 'find' of mine - love his orchestral and chamber music. I first came across him with the violin sonatas, excellent!
    https://open.spotify.com/album/7ECD5rmTkeRVULcyewliVD
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