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    Quote Originally Posted by Heck148 View Post
    Love the LvB Violin Cto....have played it many times...probably most memorable with Ani Kafavian..
    Do you mean that you've actually performed it? Were you in the orchestra or were you the soloist? Either way, that would be so exciting!

    As a pianist, I'll never be able to have that experience (unless I accompany a violinist by playing the piano reduction, but that's just not the same.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettina View Post
    Do you mean that you've actually performed it? Were you in the orchestra or were you the soloist? Either way, that would be so exciting!

    As a pianist, I'll never be able to have that experience (unless I accompany a violinist by playing the piano reduction, but that's just not the same.)
    I believe he means "played" as on a CD "player".
    Facts don't care about your feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    I believe he means "played" as on a CD "player".
    Oh...haha, I guess I totally misread his post. I got carried away with excitement about the thought of performing Beethoven's violin concerto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettina View Post
    Oh...haha, I guess I totally misread his post. I got carried away with excitement about the thought of performing Beethoven's violin concerto.
    Yeah....Ha! Ha! And 45+65=100. Another common excitement mistake.
    Facts don't care about your feelings.

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    The piano transcription is unworthy of the music. Only the violin can make it soar.

    So many great performances of this music. Heifetz/Munch and Francescatti/Walter are 2 of my favorite performances.
    Facts don't care about your feelings.

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    Salvatore Accardo (violin) La Scala Philharmonic Orchestra, Carlo Maria Giulini very fine recording.
    Last edited by Pugg; Dec-02-2016 at 05:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    The piano transcription is unworthy of the music. Only the violin can make it soar.

    So many great performances of this music. Heifetz/Munch and Francescatti/Walter are 2 of my favorite performances.
    True, so many great recorded performances of a wonderful piece. But for me it has to be Oistrakh.

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    Heck148 - Thanks! for those, three recommendations - Heifetz/Rodzinski (had never heard of it, before), plus Zino F with Walter, from 1961 ... and, of course, Szigeti/the master, with Walter, in 1948. Well, I've dubbed an old EMI LP, with Szigeti/Walter, from 1932, and this might be the GREATEST performance/recording, of all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpowders View Post
    I believe he means "played" as on a CD "player".
    I have certainly played it countless times myself this way with many distinguish violinists!

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    I think heck148 means he played bassoon in the orchestra, not just a disc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettina View Post
    Do you mean that you've actually performed it? Were you in the orchestra or were you the soloist? Either way, that would be so exciting!
    I've played it as an orchestra member many times...the Bassoon I part is very rewarding, with wonderful solos. Each movement has important work for the bassoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senza sordino View Post
    I have four versions:
    Gidon Kremer, a fine performance but the cadenza is out of place with the addition of the piano and a prominent tympani.

    Heifetz, technically brilliant, but perhaps too mechanical.

    Isabelle Faust, a recent recording. Lovely and warm. Nice orchestra sound too.

    Zino Francescatti, possibly my favourite of the four, warm and full of character with the best cadenza, Kreisler's cadenza.
    I heard about performances that use Beethoven's cadenza from the piano/orchestra version, transcribed for violin (and the essential timpani!), but why would anyone include the piano as well?

    Also seconding Francescatti/Walter, one of the glories of Walter's Indian summer, with Francescatti being a congenial soloist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heck148 View Post
    I've played it as an orchestra member many times...the Bassoon I part is very rewarding, with wonderful solos. Each movement has important work for the bassoon.
    What I think of as the "bassoon episode" is my favorite part of the final rondo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreisler jr View Post
    What I think of as the "bassoon episode" is my favorite part of the final rondo.
    Yes, that's a neat solo, very fun to play...essentially violin and bassoon duet....he may have been inspired by Haydn, who loved the combination of strings/woodwinds, high/low...
    He often paired the oboe with cello, violin and bassoon....

    in the Beethoven concerto, the 2nd mvt solo is really lovely, also....1st mvt contains quite a few good bassoon parts also.

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    IMO the second greatest violin concerto to the Brahms.

    My favorite recordings, in order:

    Fritz Kreisler/Leo Blech
    Bronislaw Huberman/George Szell
    Adolf Busch/Friz Busch (live)
    Jascha Heifetz/Arturo Toscanini
    Ginette Neveu/Hans Rosbaud
    Adolf Busch/Friz Busch (studio)
    Joseph Szigeti/Bruno Walter
    Erich Röhn/Wilhelm Furtwängler
    Yehudi Menuhin/Wilhelm Furtwängler (1947 live)
    Yehudi Menuhin/Wilhelm Furtwängler (1954)
    Georg Kulenkampff/Hans Schmidt-Isserstedt
    Itzhak Perlman/Carlo Maria Giulini
    ​Camilla Wicks/Bruno Walter
    Leonid Kogan/Constantin Silvestri
    Gioconda De Vito/Eugen Jochum
    Wolfgang Schneiderman/Eugen Jochum
    Leonid Kogan/Rudolf Kempe
    ​Johanna Martzy/Otmar Nussio
    ​Herman Krebbers/Bernard Haitink
    ​David Oistrakh/Herbert Albert
    ​Nathan Milstein/William Steinberg
    ​​Erica Morini/Vladimir Golschmann
    Henryk Szeryng/Otto Klemperer


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