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  • Machaut

    9 25.00%
  • Ockheghem

    7 19.44%
  • Rameau

    21 58.33%
  • Mussorgsky

    21 58.33%
  • Webern

    15 41.67%
  • Stockhausen

    5 13.89%
  • Takemitsu

    16 44.44%
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Thread: Your favourites of my favourites - losers' edition

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    Default Your favourites of my favourites - losers' edition

    Here we have the 7 lowest scoring composers of the previous poll.
    ..wonder what that means...
    Hopefully this'll spike some interest on the poor dead fellas.

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    I dig the last few but never heard of the first two.
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    All except for Ockeghem (haven't heard enough of his music!) and Mussorgsky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComposerOfAvantGarde View Post
    All except for Ockeghem (haven't heard enough of his music!) and Mussorgsky.
    I voted the same, but they're all wonderful composers. If I had to order them personally, it would go Stockhausen > Takemitsu > Webern > Rameau > Machaut > Mussorgsky > Ockeghem, but likewise, Ockeghem is the composer from whom I've heard the least. I don't listen to early music enough, so I usually fail to spread the love beyond a core group - Machaut being my main Medieval man, with Gesualdo and Palestrina hogging the majority of the Renaissance love.

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    Two famous ear catching Ockeghem pieces are the Missa Prolationum and the canon Deo gratia à 36 attributed to him. So are the more simple Requiem and Missa Mi-mi and of course his chansons good recommendations.



    At his best he displays an overwhelming contraputal skill of rhythmically independent lines flowing smoothly like a river, where there's as much imitation as there is 'varietas'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richannes Wrahms View Post
    Two famous ear catching Ockeghem pieces are the Missa Prolationum and the canon Deo gratia à 36 attributed to him. So are the more simple Requiem and Missa Mi-mi and of course his chansons good recommendations.

    At his best he displays an overwhelming contraputal skill of rhythmically independent lines flowing smoothly like a river, where there's as much imitation as there is 'varietas'.
    I believe I've heard those three masses but no chansons or Deo Gratia. Wonderful masses, but admittedly one listens to enough Palestrina and begins to hope for a choral piece open without the ever-so-popular opening: "Kyyyyr ee ay"

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    Rameau, most likely the greatest composer on that list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanb View Post
    I believe I've heard those three masses but no chansons or Deo Gratia. Wonderful masses, but admittedly one listens to enough Palestrina and begins to hope for a choral piece open without the ever-so-popular opening: "Kyyyyr ee ay"
    Oddly enough, most of the sections of the mass start off with something other than "Kyyyyr ee ay" although admittedly, most mass settings do contain the Kyrie which does indeed start off with that word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ComposerOfAvantGarde View Post
    All except for Ockeghem (haven't heard enough of his music!)
    I know we all have ears that operate in different ways, but I knew within a few seconds of hearing a recording of Ochegheim's music for the first time that here was a truly remarkable composer that I wanted to hear more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Headphone Hermit View Post
    Oddly enough, most of the sections of the mass start off with something other than "Kyyyyr ee ay" although admittedly, most mass settings do contain the Kyrie which does indeed start off with that word.
    And I prefer to listen to the mass in order

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    There are a number of Machaut and Ockheghem fans among recent composers and so there are little instrumental arrangements for those who find vocal and slow paced works tedious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanb View Post
    And I prefer to listen to the mass in order
    .... and hopefullly (for the good of your soul) with all of the liturgical elements as well?

    ((BTW - fair point about the opening - an example of fingers typing without brain switched on fully - HH withdraws peacefully ))
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtMusic View Post
    Rameau, most likely the greatest composer on that list.
    I too voted for Rameau, though all the others on the list are worthy contenders. I always find it amazing how underrated this composer is considering his fame and innovation in his day, and would happily experience one of his operas as much as Handel's.

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    Takemitsu and Mussorgsky stand out for me.

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    I'm glad to see Rameau is at a respectable second place, one of France's greatest composers.

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