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    Default How Well Do You Think You Know 20th Century Avant-Garde Music?

    This poll is not about anyone else but yourself as a listener of 20th century and contemporary avant-garde music if you are a listener of such.

    How well do you think you know the music? It is whatever this question may mean to you or if you are confused by this question, then you may well choose to not participate. It is very simple.

    Remember, it is only about yourself.

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    For me, I am unsure how well I know it. I have voted this good option.

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    You are waaay too hung up on this nebulous ill-defined non-genre you call "avant garde".

    To start to answer this question I'm going to need to know which composers and works you think go by that title - because they're probably not going to be exactly the same ones I would think of.

    But that would be "semantic bullying", wouldn't it?

    (but the best answer to the question is: the more I learn the more I realise how little I know)

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    I know 20th/21st century music very well compared to myself 10 years ago and not very well compared to others, or to myself 10 years from now.

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    I went with "I do not know it very well", but it would have been nice to have somewhat more shaded options, to allow for different levels of knowledge. Let's say our knowledge is on a scale of 1 to 5, 5 being that you know it very well, then this poll really lumps levels 1 to 4 together. I guess I'm about a 2 or 3.

    (Edited to add: this is based on what I consider to be "avant-garde" music, which I assume is not a definition exactly shared by everyone or indeed anyone here).

    "I know it more than I want to" would also have been a good option.
    Last edited by Nereffid; Jul-05-2015 at 17:55.

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    I voted, "Who Cares," but obviously people care or it would not exist. The better selection for me would have been "I Don't Care."
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    Tolerably well for 1901 - 1950, especially chamber music and solo piano, but not 'very well' in comparison to others on this forum (but very well indeed compared to anyone I know in 3D).

    After 1950 - I can only say that I have dabbled and continue to dabble.

    Overall - 'I do not know it very well' would be fairest.

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    I voted Enthusiastic Ignoramus, Depending on the Meaning of the Terminology.

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    I know the music I like very well, a great deal of it was composed during the 20th century. From that statement You may draw your own conclusion!

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    The answer partly depends on what niches to include of the most contemporary sort, and whether technical details are essential. Hence, for my part, "unsure". Though I´ve heard and own a lot, I can´t say that I´d be able to say, identify individual Pousseur works from each other, whereas in the case of Takemitsu, Artyomov or Nørgård, chances are often better. Likewise, my technical knowledge is very limited.

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    Medium-rare. [Like a steak.]

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    To be serious, I know about the main figureheads in 20th century music but there are many composers left for me to discover.

    Also the OP forgot to mention that there is 21st century avant garde music.

    Classical music composition didn't die in the year 2001.
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    I have heard works by a very large number of 20th century composers - likely more than from all earlier centuries. Still I feel I know 20th century music (and especially works that most would call avant-garde) rather poorly. There are simply too many (in a good way) works and composers to explore.

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    The more I read and study the theory behind it, the more I seem to understand it through listening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonNZ View Post
    (but the best answer to the question is: the more I learn the more I realise how little I know)
    That is my feeling as well.
    It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. And I am a very ingenious fellow

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