View Poll Results: C.P.E. Bach Versus Michael Haydn

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Thread: C.P.E. Bach Versus Michael Haydn

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    Default C.P.E. Bach Versus Michael Haydn

    Who gets more listening time? Pure and simple.

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    I voted both about the same. Used to be Carl but Michael is now in my good books as a very fine composer indeed.

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    I quite enjoy both composers. In my early days of listening to classical music I listened to much more CPE Bach than Michael Haydn, but recently I probably hear Haydn somewhat more often. I recently purchased 8 symphonies and several choral works by Haydn, so I'm working through them.

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    CPE easily. I could never find Michael Haydn very interesting. Besides, as Hector Salamanca says, "La familia es todo."


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    I have more than 6 times as much music by CPE Bach than Michael Haydn in my collection. So that would give it to CPE by default, but I find his music more interesting anyway.
    I like MH's Requiem of 1771, which inspired (if that's the word) Mozart in his own Requiem.

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    CPE Bach, clearly for me. Especially his concertos. The only M. Haydn composition I would not want to be without is his Requiem.

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    Michael Who? (sorry, couldn't resist).

    CPE was hailed by Mozart as the most important Bach, and while this may be an exaggeration (although his role in the move from Baroque to the classical period is very important), his compositions to me speak much more than Joseph's little brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musicophile View Post
    CPE was hailed by Mozart as the most important Bach, and while this may be an exaggeration (although his role in the move from Baroque to the classical period is very important), his compositions to me speak much more than Joseph's little brother.
    Wasn't it CPE Bach who Lamented the the loss of "serious" music of the Baroque period to the "comic" sonata forms of the classical style?

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    I'm not aware of that quote. What I was referring to is the famous quote by Mozart about CPE (source Wikipedia and several articles I've read): "Er ist der Vater; wir sind die Bubn. Wer von uns was Rechts kann, hats von ihm gelernt"
    I'd love to learn more about that supposed loss of seriousness.
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    Can anyone recommend any good works by Michael Haydn aside from the Requiem?

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    Had the 4 LPs of Farberman conducting Michael Haydn symphonies but skipped some of them. He´s not an insignificant composer though, and there are good things from him.

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    Both CPE and Michael are fine composers. I listen to each about the same amount of time which I admit isn't very much.

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    In terms of instrumental music, CPE by a very large margin. In some ways, its more pertinent to compare parts of CPE's output to parts of FJ Haydn's output. Keyboard sonatas for example. Or Keyboard Concertos to Symphonies.

    But some Michael Haydn symphonies are interesting enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clavichorder View Post
    In terms of instrumental music, CPE by a very large margin. In some ways, its more pertinent to compare parts of CPE's output to parts of FJ Haydn's output. Keyboard sonatas for example. Or Keyboard Concertos to Symphonies.

    But some Michael Haydn symphonies are interesting enough.
    Agree, Carl obviously has the instrumental keyboard lead and why would we not expect that from one of the greatest keyboard composers father & son?

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    Unfortunately couldn't find anything from both of them in my region...

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