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Thread: Do you like atonal music?

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    Default Do you like atonal music?

    Vote if you like.

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    The proper term should be non-tonal music.

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    Autocrat, this is an interesting thread. We have been discussing much lately about atonal music/twelve-tone/serialism etc. You might like to take a read of those threads too.

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    Not even 'non-tonal' because that again implies that it must be compared to tonal music to define what it is lacking and it too broad a term if it includes everything from Debussy to Xenakis to Berg etc. It is better to just describe the music really.

    Debussy wrote music which doesn't have a tonal centre, just as Mozart wrote music which is not serial.

    However, if it's classical music we are talking about, then yes I like it. I like almost every single piece of classical music that I have ever heard, I make exceptions for some pieces by Elgar and Parry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComposerOfAvantGarde View Post
    Not even 'non-tonal' because that again implies that it must be compared to tonal music to define what it is lacking and it too broad a term if it includes everything from Debussy to Xenakis to Berg etc. It is better to just describe the music really.

    Debussy wrote music which doesn't have a tonal centre, just as Mozart wrote music which is not serial.

    However, if it's classical music we are talking about, then yes I like it. I like almost every single piece of classical music that I have ever heard, I make exceptions for some pieces by Elgar and Parry.
    Did Elgar write any atonal music? Just curious. (I'm not aware of that he did.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtMusic View Post
    Autocrat, this is an interesting thread. We have been discussing much lately about atonal music/twelve-tone/serialism etc. You might like to take a read of those threads too.
    FFS, some of the poll options are almost direct quotes from that thread. Read it again, this poll is a wind-up, because every time the word "atonal" is used on these boards the discussion turns into a complete cluckfuster.

    And it's just plain boring.

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    I voted "I don't understand the question".

    Don't get me wrong, I know exactly what atonal music is, it's just the words "you" and "like" that I have trouble with.

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    Oh no. Not another do you like atonal music thread.
    It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. And I am a very ingenious fellow

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    I unequivocally support Nereffid's proposition!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nereffid View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I know exactly what atonal music is...
    Uh...an oxymoron, right?


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    The entire debate over what is atonal music is bogus.

    You want to know atonal music is? One only has to consult The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians or the Harvard Dictionary of Music or any established musical reference source.

    Even Wikipedia and Webster's Dictionary have definitions of atonal. They seem reasonable to.

    If members are unhappy with the above I know that I can not say anything to enlighten them.

    Of course if one really hates atonal music they can read The Agony of Modern Music by Henry Pleasants. It may be a bit dated since it was published in 1955.

    All sarcasm aside if one really wants to know what atonal music is they should consult the above. They can give one a better more authoritative answer that I can.

    Just like tonal music, some of it I like, some I dislike.
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    What does FFS mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtMusic View Post
    Did Elgar write any atonal music? Just curious. (I'm not aware of that he did.)


    close enough.

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    What does FFS mean?
    Acronym for, for f----'s sake. This is a term often used by hipsters around here. Often confused for FPS = frames per second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autocrat View Post
    [unimportant context]

    And it's just plain boring.
    Hey! You may find the music boring, but some of us love it!

    Why I oughta...

    (more seriously, though, I want to say that "cluckfuster" is my new favorite word)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert7 View Post



    Acronym for, for f----'s sake. This is a term often used by hipsters around here. Often confused for FPS = frames per second.

    I prefer to use Frames Fer Second though

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