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  • Schoenberg

    26 40.63%
  • Berg

    28 43.75%
  • Webern

    17 26.56%
  • Eisler

    5 7.81%
  • Wellesz

    2 3.13%
  • Cage

    0 0%
  • Lou Harrison

    2 3.13%
  • Earl Kim

    0 0%
  • Stockhausen

    3 4.69%
  • Xenakis

    4 6.25%
  • Other, please specify

    5 7.81%
  • Who cares

    5 7.81%
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    From Wiki: "The Second Viennese School is the group of composers that comprised Arnold Schoenberg and his pupils and close associates in early 20th century Vienna, where he lived and taught, sporadically, between 1903 and 1925." Read more here for convenient reference,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Viennese_School

    Which of the SVS composers are your favorites? I invite you to share your thoughts.

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    I think my favorite is Berg based on my listening of his two well known operas Wozzeck and Lulu. Berg has a solid control of dramatic impulse and spices the score at the right moments. Of the two, Wozzeck is probably the greater work.

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    Stockhausen and Xenakis are not in any sense a part of the Second Viennese School. They were both Messiaen pupils.

    Plus, you've already made this poll before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahlerian View Post
    Stockhausen and Xenakis are not in any sense a part of the Second Viennese School. They were both Messiaen pupils.

    Plus, you've already made this poll before.
    Did I make this poll before? If I did, then I apologize as I did not immediately remember.

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    Regrettably, they all wrote so little (Schoenberg a bit more than the other two combined, I think) and I love them all I got into Schoenberg first, with Webern pretty close after. It was Berg that took me a bit longer—because he didn't sound as atonal as the other two. It wasn't until I got into Mahler that Berg really started to make sense to me. All three are composers who have been part of my life for 40 or so years... and counting! Theirs is a type of music that I find addictive and I need to have it regularly. It gives me such a charge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtMusic View Post
    Did I make this poll before? If I did, then I apologize as I did not immediately remember.
    Yes, you did.

    Your Favorite 2nd Viennese School Composer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahlerian View Post
    Correct. Can you kindly merge these two threads into one? It would be interesting to see how they poll over time.

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    Since the earlier thread, I have developed a liking for Berg's music, which I think is worth sharing with members here.

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    I voted for both Xenakis and Stockhausen, too, even though I do know that they weren't part of the 2nd Viennese School. They, too, have been with me for 40-odd years and still going strong.

    I am glad, ArtMusic, that you have given Berg a chance. His music could be the doorway to an appreciation of a lot of other great music! As I have indicated often enough, I began with these moderns and worked back. I need to work my way forward a bit more than I have, too.

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    Thanks for the encouragement! Even though Xenakis and Stockhausen were not part of the SVS, I guess there is no harm listing them there. I don't need to be too strict with definitions.

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    Of the original three V-men, my preference has been for Webern. I love Schoenberg quite a bit. I really like the austerity that Webern delivered. Any man who got to the point within a minute is incredible.

    "if a horse could sing in a monotone, the horse would sound like Carly Simon, only a horse wouldn't rhyme 'yacht', 'apricot', and 'gavotte'. Is that some kind of joke?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert7 View Post
    Of the original three V-men ...
    V-men : can you spell them out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtMusic View Post
    Even though Xenakis and Stockhausen were not part of the SVS, I guess there is no harm listing them there. I don't need to be too strict with definitions.
    Well, we are a rather erudite community and most of us are here not just to share our passion, but to learn more. I think I can forgive the error but those less informed should know that Stockhausen and Xenakis are about 50 years later than the Second Viennese School and both were involved in the Darmstadt School.

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    I like some Schoenberg and Berg but haven't gotten around Webern yet.

    A lot of their music escapes me and I can't quite explain why since I like many 20th-century compositions by the likes of Gubaidulina, Schnittke, Saariaho, Takemitsu, Dutilleux, etc. Maybe it's the complex polyphony at work leaving me puzzled most of the time. At least I can safely say I like Wozzeck and Erwartung (for the high drama). I may be one of the few who still doesn't get Berg's VC and it's supposedly THE gateway to Second Viennese!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtMusic View Post
    V-men : can you spell them out?
    Schoenberg, Webern, Berg?

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