View Poll Results: Was Béla Bartók One Of The Most Important 20th Century Composers?

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  • Yes, BB was an important 20th century composer

    58 77.33%
  • Yes, influential and important to some degree but not paramount

    8 10.67%
  • No, not at all

    1 1.33%
  • Unsure, don't know enough of his music to judge

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    Béla Bartók's music is not one of my favorites and not one that I listen to often. But I do have a suspicion that he was one of the most important 20th century composer, certainly for the first half of the century. For example, his popular six string quartets must be one of the most influential sets of SQ written in the 20th century and well known atonal works written, perhaps surpassing many other similar SQ written in the period (Schoenberg wrote several, Prokofiev wrote two etc.)

    What do you think of BB?

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    I voted the first option. I do think he was one of the most important 20th century composers. Now it's a matter for me to learn more about his music and enjoy it, if I can.

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    I'm not sure what you mean by important. But one of the best, in my estimation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faustian View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean by important. But one of the best, in my estimation.
    Well people might question what you mean by "best". To me, you are more than welcome to describe him as "best" or as you please.

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    What's Hungarian for 'I'd crawl a million miles over broken glass just to stick little flags into his night soil'?
    '...a violator of his word, a libertine over head and ears in debt and disgrace, a despiser of domestic ties, the companion of gamblers and demireps, a man who has just closed half a century without a single claim on the gratitude of his country or the respect of posterity...' - Leigh Hunt on the Prince Regent (later George IV).

    ὃν οἱ θεοὶ φιλοῦσιν ἀποθνῄσκει νέος [Those whom the gods love die young] - Menander

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    Quote Originally Posted by elgars ghost View Post
    What's Hungarian for 'I'd crawl a million miles over broken glass just to stick little flags into his night soil'?
    Vagyomszekelmetenvarymharoskalmevetseganyszokalner zetemkotordezsczardasittemnoroszantaleviemszukorat etmisavedyeratlom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    Vagyomszekelmetenvarymharoskalmevetseganyszokalner zetemkotordezsczardasittemnoroszantaleviemszukorat etmisavedyeratlom.
    I don't know what this means, even after sorry research. But I thought it was funny.

    (Felt the need to clarify, in case this is some deplorable remark.)

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    As Mao purportedly said when asked what he thought of the French Revolution, "It's too early to tell."

    But personally I think Bartók's music is brilliant. And he essentially created the field of ethnomusicology.

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    Did Mao really say that? Pretty good. He was once accused of being as bad as the notorious First Emperor in the Chin dynasty, who unified China. The First Emperor buried several hundred Confucian scholars alive and had his troops run round and round tamping down the soil. Mao replied, "The First Emperor killed only 460 scholars. I have killed 46,000. There's no grounds for comparison." (again, supposedly)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avey View Post
    I don't know what this means, even after sorry research. But I thought it was funny.

    (Felt the need to clarify, in case this is some deplorable remark.)
    You actually researched that?

    My sincere apologies. I wish I could give you back that portion of your life.

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    The fact that everyone went with the first option in the poll came as a huge surprise to me. Of course, I voted "who cares" because the entire issue of whether or not Bartok was a great 20th century composer is clearly a social construct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    Vagyomszekelmetenvarymharoskalmevetseganyszokalner zetemkotordezsczardasittemnoroszantaleviemszukorat etmisavedyeratlom.
    Close ... that is the simple past perfect continuous tense whereas you want the simple past pluperfect noncontinuous tense. Unfortunately each time I try to type that on my keyboard, it trips half the circuit breakers in the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balthazar View Post
    As Mao purportedly said when asked what he thought of the French Revolution, "It's too early to tell."

    But personally I think Bartók's music is brilliant. And he essentially created the field of ethnomusicology.
    It is Zhou Enlai who is acclaimed to have said that but it was really about the turmoils in France in 1968:

    https://mediamythalert.wordpress.com/tag/zhou-enlai/

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    An interesting "poll" question, but as usual the "poll" options do not encompass any level truth that comes close to a historical view!

    Bartok was an important composer, music ethnologist and performer, how important varies depending on within which dimension and sphere one is positioned!

    /ptr
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    For some reason "One Of The Most Important 20th Century Composers" doesn't annoy me in the way "A Great Composer" does.

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