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What did he write ? A string trio ?
I love Haydn. Supposedly called 'papa haydn' in his day,
from : http://w3.rz-berlin.mpg.de/cmp/haydnj_works.html
Joseph Haydn composed over 750 works and arranged over 330 songs. Between 1934 and 1971 Anthony von Hoboken compiled a directory of Haydn's works according to musical forms. His results were published by the company Schott under the title "Joseph Haydn - Thematisch-bibliographisches Werkverzeichnis" (Eng. "J. Haydn - Thematic-bibliographic Listing of his Works"). Hoboken assigned a number to each work, and this idea was so helpful, that most of Haydn's works are now known not only through their title but also through their Hoboken (H) number.
In the event that you want more detailed information about Haydn's works, please consult a copy of Hoboken's work in a local library. Even though it is in German it is not too difficult to understand. Obviously we cannot offer all of the information contained in its 3 volumes.
In order to prevent this page from becoming too long, it has been split into parts according to musical forms and their related Hoboken numbers.
For example, Symphony 104 is assigned H (Hoboken) I (Work category) 104 (Work number).
Symphonies H I 1-108
Overtures H Ia 1-16
Divertimenti in 4 and more Parts H II 1-47
String Quartets H III 1-83b
Divertimenti in 3 Parts H IV 1-11
String Trios H V 1-21
Various Duos H VI 1-6
Concerti for Various Instruments H VII
Marches H VIII 1-7
Dances H IX 1-29
Various Works for Baryton H X 1-12
Trios for Baryton, Violin or Viola, Cello 1-126
Duos with Baryton H XII 1-25
Divertimenti with Piano H XIV 1-13
Trios with Piano, Violin or Flute, Cello H XV 1-40
Piano Duos H XVa
Piano Sonatas H XVI 1-52
Piano Pieces H XVII 1-12
Piano 4 Hands H XVIIa 1-2
Piano Concerti H XVIII 1-11
Pieces for Mechanical Clock (Flötenuhr) H XIX 1-32
Instrumental Works about The Seven Last Words H XX
Choral Version of The Seven Last Words H XX/2
Oratorios H XXI 1-3
Masses H XXII 1-14
Other Sacred Works H XXIII
Cantatas and Arias with Orchestra H XXIV
2, 3, and 4 Part Songs H XXV
Songs and Cantatas with Piano H XXVI
Canons H XXVII Sacred 1-10 Secular 1-47
Operas H XXVIII 1-13
Marionette Operas H XXIX
Incidental Music H XXX
Arrangements of (273) Scottish and (60) Welsh Folksongs H XXXI
[QUOTEString Trios H V 1-21 [/QUOTE] Have you heard them ?
I have not. I will soon though. I think I'll be getting a full Haydn set very shortly.That should fill in those annoying little gaps.
Are they good ???????Originally Posted by SPR
I have not.**** I will soon though.* I think I'll be getting a full Haydn set very shortly.*
I've heard some of the discs in that (I assume you're referring to the Brilliant Classics set) and they're pretty good. I have both the Bach and Mozart editions, which are stellar, but both are weaker on the vocal works than the orchestral/chamber/solo instrument works.I think I'll be getting a full Haydn set very shortly.
If you do buy it, make sure to tell us (the TC members) about it!
Take a look at the Bandit's blog, Americana Avenue.
yes indeed. I have the Mozart set.... so between you and I - we will have 'all 4' perhaps we can form an opinion!
I recently started to rediscover some of Haydn's London symphonies. I think my favourite has to be No. 101 'The Clock.' Haydn was a master of big contrasts, for example that symphony opens up with a slow, dark theme, but then Haydn makes a 180 degree turn around and floods the movement with light and wit. I think he is an underrated genius, so much so that Beethoven would not have become as great as he was, without Haydn's influence.
It was also the 200th anniversary of Haydn's death recently, on 31st May. Well, despite the passing of all that time, the works of 'the father of the symphony' and 'the father of the string quartet' remain as fresh as ever...
Others also think that of course. But it's for the very reason you give, people say he is the 'father of' whatever meaning they think he is just a precursor to others rather than good in himself. I was also thinking of bumping up this thread as it obviously hasn't had much interest.
The last three London symphonies are often seen as the pinnacle, but others such as 97 (which I bet Beethoven liked) are definitely underrated, as well as some much earlier ones.
Haydn is my favorite composer. His music is so exciting with their surprises, all that wit and verve,, it's hard to me to express what I like in his music, pretty much everything I would say. And I don't think he is underrated, he is considered one of the greatest composers by pretty much anyone who studies music seriously, the problem is that he is not popular, mostly because audiences these days are at odds to grasp Haydn's brilliant music invention, what makes sucess are a large orchestra playing overblown late-romantic pieces, and they will never find this Haydn, he can be as dramatic as Mahler, but in a more suble way.
OBs: this complete edition is not very much complete, lacks some masses, some operas.
Obs1: I will make a succint Haydn must have:
This is what I think a basic discography of Haydn is, from there you can explore other works or other interpretations, but I chose not a historic or traditional approach but the best renditions of each work. It's well more expensive than the brilliant set, but it is worth the price.
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I have these too. All wonderful.
But how can someone be considered great but also not be popular? It's like saying that people will list him as a great composer because they feel they have to (as they have been told he is the father of whatever) not because they like him. The only real understanding and sincere rating of a composer is imo on actually liking enough of the work and therefore considering someone great. Surely someone must be considered great on an understanding of the work not just on theories of influence or some history of music.
Simply: Haydn, like Brahms was not long ago, became a musician's musician.
I think he's popular. Not mega-popular perhaps, but I imagine that most classical music lovers have some Haydn recordings in their collection.
You're saying that Haydn is far away from our time (in attitude/style or whatever) and therefore harder to understand for people now?
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