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    Quote Originally Posted by ELbowe View Post
    Just had an interesting (?) episode with Supraphonline store. Over the past months acquired a good number of nice items (downloads) at very decent prices Glenn Gould set, etc., A few days ago was browsing and saw a 10 CD set from Harmonia Mundi Germany of Italian Baroque Music ...a much varied compilation including such artists as; René Jacobs, Michael Schopper, Peter Kooy, Huelgas-Ensemble etc., I have most of this music but in 30-40 various CDs so for the price I decided it would be nice to have a download with a nice variety of music in one group. As so many know it is best to not download all at once from this site so I did the usual disc by disc download. All well until I started to sort which again can be a bit of a pain ,,when I noticed the times of the tracks vs the time displayed on their web-site were different and not by just a few seconds as is standard but in some cases minutes difference....example : "Madrigali Libro 7 A, No. 2: 09:54" as advertised on site and confirmed by both Discogs and Presto sites BUT "actual" downloaded track is just"3:03" I thought it may have been an internet problem when downloading so I downloaded just the track but same result. I have just analysed two CD downloaded (of ten) and there are six (6) significant variances of length anywhere from 30 seconds to nearly 7 minutes ! So after three different downloads with same result I e-mailed the company and got an immediate response (that is positive) but that it was a Sony" problem and they would pass it on...and a reply would come eventually from Sony directly.....Anyone else had this problem? Thanks!!
    I bought that set on CD. A good value in that format as I recall. Just curious - what happens when you play the tracks? Are the actual track times always shorter than the listed track times? Could it just be that the tracks are scrambled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jegreenwood View Post
    I bought that set on CD. A good value in that format as I recall. Just curious - what happens when you play the tracks? Are the actual track times always shorter than the listed track times? Could it just be that the tracks are scrambled?
    Thanks for your input....the tracks don't appear to be scrambled but there are significantly truncated tracks that stop prematurely sometimes in mid-verse etc., As mentioned I have only checked CD1 and CD10 as they were the first downloaded as an example Disc 10 (first downloaded) all is ok until track #7 which should be (their site is lists correctly(confirmed by Discogs!)) as 9:54 downloads as only 3:03!! and there are no lost sheep tracks for the balance ..I checked!! I moved onto Disc #1 second download) ...

    Track #2 listing 8:05 actual 7:32,

    Track #4 listing: 7:09 actual 6:33,

    Track #5 listing: 4:02 actual 1:25,

    Track #10 listing: 5:23 actual 5:08
    I haven't checked the other 8 as I figured if the first and last discs are so chances are the other 8 are similar. As said it wasn't expensive and makes me want to go check all Glenn Gould to see if there is something lurking there of a similar concern as I have only played a few of the discs.... It certainly will make me wary of ordering another BIG download.
    And Monteverdi's Vespers with major missing minutes is not something I want. Thanks again!

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    Wilhelm Furtwängler - Complete Recordings on Deutsche Grammophon and Decca
    On sale at JPV, 35 CD'S for €47,00
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerx View Post
    Wilhelm Furtwängler - Complete Recordings on Deutsche Grammophon and Decca
    On sale at JPV, 35 CD'S for €47,00
    Do you have a link to JPV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manxfeeder View Post
    Do you have a link to JPV?
    https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/det...380525?lang=en
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    ClassicSelect keeps having another free download every week. This time the Big Russian Music Box:

    https://www.classicselectworld.com/p...gital-download


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    Quote Originally Posted by ELbowe View Post
    Just had an interesting (?) episode with Supraphonline store. Over the past months acquired a good number of nice items (downloads) at very decent prices Glenn Gould set, etc., A few days ago was browsing and saw a 10 CD set from Harmonia Mundi Germany of Italian Baroque Music ...a much varied compilation including such artists as; René Jacobs, Michael Schopper, Peter Kooy, Huelgas-Ensemble etc., I have most of this music but in 30-40 various CDs so for the price I decided it would be nice to have a download with a nice variety of music in one group. As so many know it is best to not download all at once from this site so I did the usual disc by disc download. All well until I started to sort which again can be a bit of a pain ,,when I noticed the times of the tracks vs the time displayed on their web-site were different and not by just a few seconds as is standard but in some cases minutes difference....example : "Madrigali Libro 7 A, No. 2: 09:54" as advertised on site and confirmed by both Discogs and Presto sites BUT "actual" downloaded track is just"3:03" I thought it may have been an internet problem when downloading so I downloaded just the track but same result. I have just analysed two CD downloaded (of ten) and there are six (6) significant variances of length anywhere from 30 seconds to nearly 7 minutes ! So after three different downloads with same result I e-mailed the company and got an immediate response (that is positive) but that it was a Sony" problem and they would pass it on...and a reply would come eventually from Sony directly.....Anyone else had this problem? Thanks!!

    I had the same thing with the Claudio Abbado Album Collection set from Supraphonline.

    On the 39th disc, one of the Bach Brandenburg concertos is missing part of the 1st movement and almost all of the 2nd movement (39 seconds long for me).

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    Just to update on the Supraphonline download problems as mentioned above.
    I received an e-mail this morning from Sony (CZ) apologizing for the problem, they will be sending a new download link with corrected tracks.
    As an exercise yesterday I went through each track as downloaded and found only three of ten discs did not have errors..three discs had errors on five tracks with up to three minutes variance! It certainly will give me pause when I consider future downloads of box sets.

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    ....further report from the Supraphonline front!
    Download (e-mail says "all errors have been corrected") in 11 files for 10 CDs (?)...and cursory glance there is no semblance of order (of original CDs) ..tracks are all over the map ....this is going to take time...luckily I have a week to check as download expires then!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELbowe View Post
    ....further report from the Supraphonline front!
    Download (e-mail says "all errors have been corrected") in 11 files for 10 CDs (?)...and cursory glance there is no semblance of order (of original CDs) ..tracks are all over the map ....this is going to take time...luckily I have a week to check as download expires then!!
    Interesting following this story.
    A question: what is this about the download expiring? I don't think my Supraphon downloads expire at all.
    I've bought quite a few of these ridiculously cheap offers, and haven't spotted any errors yet (beyond the tedious business of sorting out the tags), but I haven't yet listened to more than a small proportion of what I bought. I will certainly keep an eye out for errors.
    Have you been buying mp3 or flac?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclectic Al View Post
    Interesting following this story.
    A question: what is this about the download expiring? I don't think my Supraphon downloads expire at all.
    I've bought quite a few of these ridiculously cheap offers, and haven't spotted any errors yet (beyond the tedious business of sorting out the tags), but I haven't yet listened to more than a small proportion of what I bought. I will certainly keep an eye out for errors.
    Have you been buying mp3 or flac?
    I have been buying mp3 was thinking about flac but read a comment that made me stick to mp3.
    The files for the corrected tracks were sent to me via "WeTransfer" (never heard of it before!) with an expiry in 7 days. The initial response from Supra was I would be hearing from the Sony rep as it was Sony files?? So that is it so far....wading through the files and getting a bit jaded by the entire experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELbowe View Post
    I have been buying mp3 was thinking about flac but read a comment that made me stick to mp3.
    The files for the corrected tracks were sent to me via "WeTransfer" (never heard of it before!) with an expiry in 7 days. The initial response from Supra was I would be hearing from the Sony rep as it was Sony files?? So that is it so far....wading through the files and getting a bit jaded by the entire experience.
    Nothing about Supraphon is straightforward is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclectic Al View Post
    Nothing about Supraphon is straightforward is it.
    It appears not.....what will be interesting to see when the dust settles on this if Supra correct the items on their site and prevent another poor old bugger like me having to go through the hoops...or are they content with the idea people don't check these things...hope not! Having said that I have been happy with single album purchases so far at great prices.

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    Back in the old days of the internet Supraphon licensed out their catalogue to a dodgy Russian site (cant remember the name of the site). Downloads were dirt cheap. I filled my boots from their catalogue for 6 months before they decided to start trying to do it themselves but theyve always been rubbish at offering online downloads. I once downloaded what i thought was one of their albums and it was actually a boxset. Hahaha.

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    This hopefully will my final words on this exhausting ordeal! The downloads sent contain all corrected tracks (duration) while again confusing and a challenge to find the 22 corrected tracks are there among the 183 in all.
    Just to see of Supra had done their part I revisited the site, did a quick check and downloaded one of the original "short" tracks (3:03 delivered should be 9:54 ) and it has been corrected...one must presume others have also been corrected.
    Phew....now I am really afraid to check Glenn Gould set as I have only played 4/5 and they were ok....do I feel lucky!!

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