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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    But what's nicely called "regime change" is still practiced. Current targets are Syria and Venezuela. Seems like we're getting rusty.
    there were some theories that the Arab spring was started by Obama through social media. It might be disinformation spread by Russians or it might be true, who knows. But Obama certainly was a technocrat who believed in using social media to do propaganda and manipulate the masses. He won the second election through abusing Facebook, he did nothing to curtail the surveillance state etc. He was/is probably not a bad man, but as the saying goes the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Now he opened a can of worms.
    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...-donald-trump/

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    New channel apologises to New Zealanders for map mix-up that also labelled Papua New Guinea as South Korea

    Russian news channel RT has apologised for apparently accidentally labelling New Zealand as “Japan”, and Papua New Guinea as “South Korea” in an embarrassing southern hemisphere mix-up.

    The mistake came in a segment produced by their US bureau about potential new missile bases in “Japan, South Korea and Australia”. But in a large, erroneous graphic only Australia was correctly labelled.

    It is the latest in a long line of incidents involving New Zealand and geographic mistakes. The country is left off maps so frequently it prompted the prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, to star in a special light-hearted campaign in protest, back in 2018.

    A spokesperson for RT confirmed to New Zealand news site Newshub that the mistake was genuine.

    “Our American early morning news team suffered a little geography mishap,” a spokesperson said. “We ... have corrected ours as soon as it was spotted, and have given our team a new map of the southern hemisphere to ensure it doesn’t happen again.”

    The segment, aired on 15 August, has since been corrected in the online version and remains available on YouTube on RT America’s channel. The caption makes clear that “this video includes a corrected map”.

    In the segment, titled “Manoeuvring missiles”, correspondent Ashlee Banks explained how the US was looking at potential missile bases in Asia.

    “Another fight between the US and China is heating up, this time it’s over missiles,” she said. “The US has officially withdrawn from the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty and now plans to place weapons across the Asia Pacific.

    “The US is looking to place missiles in Japan, South Korea and Australia,” she said, even as the graphic showed something else.

    New Zealand, a country of 4.7 million people, is so often forgotten on maps that Tourism New Zealand launched an entire campaign based on the phenomenon.

    With Ardern and comedian Rhys Darby, it described it as “the next great conspiracy: New Zealand is disappearing off world maps”.

    A Reddit thread dedicated to recording incidents where New Zealand is left off global maps has more than 74,000 subscribers – among them the infamous map of the world made entirely out of chicken nuggets, but without New Zealand.

    I always thought Kiwi's where weird , hope they don't confuse the Sheep for Whales
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    The case of the dropped, mysterious metal boxes, containing money:

    Seems to be a recent global trend - dropped metal boxes you find somewhere, containing a bit of money, and a written note. Maybe a case of social activism or experiment, or something else ... Has reached Denmark now also.
    https://www.boston.com/news/local-ne...ston-cambridge
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMike View Post
    Good Lord, 2000 years from now they are still going to trot out the US CIA operation in Iran. That event is about as relevant to current events as the Dreyfuss affair.
    You must have missed the first 5 minutes of the movie Argo. You can draw a direct line from the overthrow of Mosaddegh, the installation of the Shaw, the establishment of the SAVAK - and the 1979 Iranian revolution.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK

    Pay particular attention to the description of the variations on the theme of torture!


    Next week, we can discuss United Fruit, Dulles, and Operation PBSUCCESS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EddieRUKiddingVarese View Post
    https://redirect.viglink.com/?format...land-should-be

    New channel apologises to New Zealanders for map mix-up that also labelled Papua New Guinea as South Korea

    Russian news channel RT has apologised for apparently accidentally labelling New Zealand as “Japan”, and Papua New Guinea as “South Korea” in an embarrassing southern hemisphere mix-up.

    The mistake came in a segment produced by their US bureau about potential new missile bases in “Japan, South Korea and Australia”. But in a large, erroneous graphic only Australia was correctly labelled.

    It is the latest in a long line of incidents involving New Zealand and geographic mistakes. The country is left off maps so frequently it prompted the prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, to star in a special light-hearted campaign in protest, back in 2018.

    A spokesperson for RT confirmed to New Zealand news site Newshub that the mistake was genuine.

    “Our American early morning news team suffered a little geography mishap,” a spokesperson said. “We ... have corrected ours as soon as it was spotted, and have given our team a new map of the southern hemisphere to ensure it doesn’t happen again.”

    The segment, aired on 15 August, has since been corrected in the online version and remains available on YouTube on RT America’s channel. The caption makes clear that “this video includes a corrected map”.

    In the segment, titled “Manoeuvring missiles”, correspondent Ashlee Banks explained how the US was looking at potential missile bases in Asia.

    “Another fight between the US and China is heating up, this time it’s over missiles,” she said. “The US has officially withdrawn from the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty and now plans to place weapons across the Asia Pacific.

    “The US is looking to place missiles in Japan, South Korea and Australia,” she said, even as the graphic showed something else.

    New Zealand, a country of 4.7 million people, is so often forgotten on maps that Tourism New Zealand launched an entire campaign based on the phenomenon.

    With Ardern and comedian Rhys Darby, it described it as “the next great conspiracy: New Zealand is disappearing off world maps”.

    A Reddit thread dedicated to recording incidents where New Zealand is left off global maps has more than 74,000 subscribers – among them the infamous map of the world made entirely out of chicken nuggets, but without New Zealand.

    I always thought Kiwi's where weird , hope they don't confuse the Sheep for Whales
    Let's not cut up on the Kiwi's too much. Te Awamutu is the home of one of the world's greatest songwriters - who's oeuvre is the admiration of many creative minds (outside the States that is ).
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    Yes, to many, the problems of the world will always ultimately be the fault of the United States. It's so much easier than to admit that so many places are absolutely capable of completely screwing themselves up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMike View Post
    Yes, to many, the problems of the world will always ultimately be the fault of the United States. It's so much easier than to admit that so many places are absolutely capable of completely screwing themselves up.
    the truth is somewhere in the middle. US is neither the devil, nor the angel. Despite all of its imperfections, it is still much better than if Russia or China ruled the world. US has still made some very bad mistakes, such as the invasion of Iraq. The rise of ISIS and the whole mess in the Middle East are the results of it. The worst danger from the US are these "war hawks" like Bolton, Cheney, Rumsfeld. They are a combination of utter psychopathy with utter stupidity with utter arrogance, the worst cases of the American exceptianalism delusion. They have no clue about how the world works, cannot forsee the consequences of their actions and take no responsibility for the mess they create.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacck View Post
    the truth is somewhere in the middle. US is neither the devil, nor the angel. Despite all of its imperfections, it is still much better than if Russia or China ruled the world. US has still made some very bad mistakes, such as the invasion of Iraq. The rise of ISIS and the whole mess in the Middle East are the results of it. The worst danger from the US are these "war hawks" like Bolton, Cheney, Rumsfeld. They are a combination of utter psychopathy with utter stupidity with utter arrogance, the worst cases of the American exceptianalism delusion. They have no clue about how the world works, cannot forsee the consequences of their actions and take no responsibility for the mess they create.
    You left out the war hawk Hillary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnie Burgess View Post
    You left out the war hawk Hillary.
    I forget what wars Hillary started. Refresh my memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Magic View Post
    I forget what wars Hillary started. Refresh my memory.
    Voted for second Iraq war. Pushed for the overthrow of Egypt and Libya governments under Obama. Wanted to send troops into Syria.
    "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have." Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnie Burgess View Post
    Voted for second Iraq war. Pushed for the overthrow of Egypt and Libya governments under Obama. Wanted to send troops into Syria.
    wars can be justified and unjustified. To send more troops to Syria might have been the right thing to do, now Russia gained the upper hand there. If anything, I blame Hillary (and Obama and Merkel) for being too weak on Putin and unable to confront this criminal. Merkel was trying to appease him all the time. But enough politics from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacck View Post
    the truth is somewhere in the middle. US is neither the devil, nor the angel. Despite all of its imperfections, it is still much better than if Russia or China ruled the world. US has still made some very bad mistakes, such as the invasion of Iraq. The rise of ISIS and the whole mess in the Middle East are the results of it. The worst danger from the US are these "war hawks" like Bolton, Cheney, Rumsfeld. They are a combination of utter psychopathy with utter stupidity with utter arrogance, the worst cases of the American exceptianalism delusion. They have no clue about how the world works, cannot forsee the consequences of their actions and take no responsibility for the mess they create.
    I'm sorry, but the Middle East is a perpetual morass. So long as countries are ruled by autocrats who convince their masses that all their problems are to be blamed on everybody but themselves - but most especially Israel and the Great Satan- it will continue to be a region that is on a relatively unbroken decline since it's high water point in the Middle Ages. ISIS is but the latest manifestation of an ideology that has long been prevalent in that region, madmen who think Allah will finally once again grant them their caliphate if they just kill enough infidels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMike View Post
    I'm sorry, but the Middle East is a perpetual morass. So long as countries are ruled by autocrats who convince their masses that all their problems are to be blamed on everybody but themselves - but most especially Israel and the Great Satan- it will continue to be a region that is on a relatively unbroken decline since it's high water point in the Middle Ages. ISIS is but the latest manifestation of an ideology that has long been prevalent in that region, madmen who think Allah will finally once again grant them their caliphate if they just kill enough infidels.
    ISIS was started and organized by the former Saddam Hussein-era officers
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...raq-Syria.html

    concerning islam religion, as a result of ISIS, young muslims are becoming more and more irreligious (which is a good thing)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMike View Post
    I'm sorry, but the Middle East is a perpetual morass. So long as countries are ruled by autocrats who convince their masses that all their problems are to be blamed on everybody but themselves - but most especially Israel and the Great Satan- it will continue to be a region that is on a relatively unbroken decline since it's high water point in the Middle Ages. ISIS is but the latest manifestation of an ideology that has long been prevalent in that region, madmen who think Allah will finally once again grant them their caliphate if they just kill enough infidels.
    For once The Doctor and I agree. The Middle East is the Playland of religious enthusiasm of every sort, where the most irrational and bizarre aspects of religion get free rein. Our best action is inaction, drawing a cordon sanitaire around the area while quietly, surreptitiously aiding the minority who seek to free themselves from the shackles of religious tyranny. Otherwise, let Divine Intervention work its will.

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    "Trump reportedly suggested using nuclear bombs to stop hurricanes from striking the US"

    Could be that he is uninformed about radioactive waste problems.

    https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-...cf0e3f51c.html
    Last edited by joen_cph; Aug-26-2019 at 13:03. Reason: Typo

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