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Thread: Is Jean Sibelius Finland's Greatest Composer?

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    Default Is Jean Sibelius Finland's Greatest Composer?

    I would think Jean Sibelius was Finland's greatest composer. Wikipaedia credits him with the following opening paragraph,

    "Jean Sibelius ... was a Finnish violinist and composer of the late Romantic and early-modern periods. Widely recognized as his country's national composer, Sibelius is often credited for supporting the rise of the Finnish national identity in the country's struggle for independence...."

    Or if you feel uncomfortable with the "greatest" notion, do you at least think he was the most important Finnish composer? His seven symphonies and symphonic poems show some remarkable writing in the two to three decades periods when he wrote them. He was also the last great composer who wrote significant amounts of symphonic poems before the genre wrapped up in time after Sibelius.

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    I voted "yes" he was more or less Finland's greatest.

    The one genre however that I would mark him down is opera. I don't think he wrote much operas. (He did write some incidental music).

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    I voted "Yes, more or less" and "No, not at all". Because I could.

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    I know little about Finland. I know I love Sibelius, and I know a lot about his music.

    Also, Rautavaara is amazing. Saariaho is fantastic, too.

    But how many more am I ignoring because the recordings or everyday-run-ins are not concerned with leading me toward Finnish or Nordic composers?

    How naive am I? Enough to not vote.




    Also, Segerstam?!

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    He's my favorite Finnish composer, but I don't know many Finnish composers either.

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    How can anybody priase Sibulius, with his meager seven symphonies, when his great countryman Segerstam has penned more than 285? And his beard is far more impressive as well.


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    ^^ Which is your favorite?

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    Before and during his active years he really had little competition for the title. There have been quite a few outstanding 20th-century Finns - I've admired works by Madetoja, Rautavaara, Sallinen, and Aarre Merikanto in particular - but I still have to leave the gold medal in Sibelius's hands. For originality, compositional mastery, and sheer power his best works just amaze me.
    Last edited by Woodduck; Aug-24-2015 at 06:33.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenOC View Post
    How can anybody priase Sibulius, with his meager seven symphonies, when his great countryman Segerstam has penned more than 285? And his beard is far more impressive as well.
    Which of those statements is true?

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    Voted yes.

    Saariaho, Rautavaara, Nordgren second tier, maybe including Sallinen (am only looking into the complete symphonies set);
    Raitio, Kokkonen third;
    Klami, Melartin, Englund, Palmgren, Madetoja, Merilainen fourth.

    Not that I really know that much, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joen_cph View Post
    Voted yes.

    Saariaho, Rautavaara, Nordgren second tier, maybe including Sallinen (am only looking into the complete symphonies set);
    Raitio, Kokkonen third;
    Klami, Melartin, Englund, Palmgren, Madetoja, Merilainen fourth.

    Not that I really know that much, however.
    Sallinen's Songs of Life and Death and his opera Kullervo are very impressive.

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    He's the best Finnish composer I've heard so far, but that's not saying much.
    ≥12

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    I voted "Yes, more or less" because that seems like the most reasonable answer; also "Unsure", because what do I know; and also "Who cares", because ultimately who gives a f*** anyway?

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    You really got to ask?

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