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    Default Chandos Opera in English

    I know many people aren't a fan of translated operas, and it wouldn't be my primary method either. But as a side niche it interests me a bit. So what versions of these (or other English translated) operas do you find to be of reasonably good quality? And if you can't actually understand the words feel free to skip it, it'd only be worthwhile if I could actually understand it, I would prefer the original language if I'm not going to understand anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonata View Post
    I know many people aren't a fan of translated operas, and it wouldn't be my primary method either. But as a side niche it interests me a bit. So what versions of these (or other English translated) operas do you find to be of reasonably good quality? And if you can't actually understand the words feel free to skip it, it'd only be worthwhile if I could actually understand it, I would prefer the original language if I'm not going to understand anyway
    That's me too. I can't understand half of them anyway.
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    Many in this series are good performances and I have enjoyed listening to a number of them, although I am reminded of a comment in one of the Penguin Guides against La traviata that Verdi in English has a way of sounding rather like Gilbert and Sullivan on record
    "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Berlioz, 1856

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itullian View Post
    That's me too. I can't understand half of them anyway.
    Haha. I agree with you about that. Listening to translations doesn't usually help me too much...I can maybe pick up some words or phrases here and there, but overall it is very strenuous trying to follow along and understand what they are saying without subtitles. So I just listen in the original language in all its glory and put the subtitles on!

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    I have Rossini's Thieving Magpie in Opera in English and like it a lot. On the other hand, the Fidelio is not very good.
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    The only recording I have from this series is The Pearl Fishers which is ok. I bought it mostly out of curiosity and it was one of the few to get reasonable reviews. I agree that it's often difficult to understand much of what is being sung anyway. I can't see me buying more anytime soon.

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    The Goodall Ring is stately and majestic and has many admirers. I find it a great contrast to Solti and Barenboim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belowpar View Post
    The Goodall Ring is stately and majestic and has many admirers. I find it a great contrast to Solti and Barenboim.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wagner-Gooda.../dp/B00005LZVY
    Much as I love Wagner's German, I agree with you here. And the Goodall Ring is the slowest of all versions I know. Makes that heavenly music last even longer.
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    I was strongly considering the Goodall Ring recently. Unfortunately it's SO expensive. And it's not available on Apple music I did want original German for my first Ring though anyway
    I may slowly collect it one volume at a time....or request it for a birthday sometime. Slower tempos are no problem for me!

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    I have the Goodall Ring, but I am less enthusiastic about it. I really prefer Wagner in German.

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    I strongly considered getting Barber of Seville from the series......but as interested as I was I couldn't resist my lovely Beverly Sills so I ordered this instead:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonata View Post
    I strongly considered getting Barber of Seville from the series......but as interested as I was I couldn't resist my lovely Beverly Sills so I ordered this instead:


    I really do hope you bought it with the Sills intention, because the opera is not in English, plain Italian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugg View Post
    I really do hope you bought it with the Sills intention, because the opera is not in English, plain Italian
    Thank you for the info, but not to worry I was aware of that. I just decided I'd rather increase my Sills collection rather than have the novelty of an English opera

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonata View Post
    Thank you for the info, but not to worry I was aware of that. I just decided I'd rather increase my Sills collection rather than have the novelty of an English opera
    A small, but valuable collection, for the connoisseurs amongst us .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Rock View Post
    I have the Goodall Ring, but I am less enthusiastic about it. I really prefer Wagner in German.
    I have the Goodall Ring and it is unlistenable. Goodall had zero sense of the works drama as evident by his overly plodding tempos. It's downright absurd and ridiculous.

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