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    Quote Originally Posted by sharik View Post
    shame about their singing though, especially Morris' whose voice sounds more appropriate for a Niebelung than Siegfried.
    Ouch. Not wrong, though, unfortunately. I really wanted to like his performance since the story of the understudy catapulting to stardom after taking the role last minute is always such a juicy one, but between Voigt and Morris, I fast forwarded most of Siegfried and practically all of Gotterdammerung.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gardibolt View Post
    Speaking of which, my copy of The Wagner Clan that I ordered back in August finally showed up today. Sheesh. Anyway, going to take a look at this reprehensible bunch.
    They are Germany's royal family, don't you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by solkorset View Post
    They are Germany's royal family, don't you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marschallin Blair View Post
    Which of course is what mythology 'is': Whether its Valhallan bridges and talking dragons- or people who can live to be over nine-hundred years old and walking-talking snakes.
    "After all, I believe that legends and myths are largely made of truth..." (Professor Tolkien)
    ... yet for us will still remain the holy German art... (Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg)
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    Is opera supposed to make sense? I mean, who thinks that the girls in Cosi would have been fooled? Who think Zauberflote makes sense, apart, perhaps, to freemasons. Would Leonore really have been able to remain in disguise close up? Do knights really arrive in boats drawn by swans? And we haven't even come to Italian opera yet! Opera does not demand to be taken seriously - just enjoyed !
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidA View Post
    Is opera supposed to make sense? I mean, who thinks that the girls in Cosi would have been fooled? Who think Zauberflote makes sense, apart, perhaps, to freemasons. Would Leonore really have been able to remain in disguise close up? And we haven't even come to Italian opera yet!
    I wouldn't worry about it too much.

    Lots of narratives have less than verisimilitude-value to them.

    Cosi could have had characters who lived to be over nine-hundred old, fire that refuses to burn, water that runs uphill, and a flat-earth cosmology.

    Thank Goddess its not 'that' ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marschallin Blair View Post
    I wouldn't worry about it too much.

    Lots of narratives have less than verisimilitude-value to them.

    Cosi could have had characters who lived to be over nine-hundred old, fire that refuses to burn, water that runs uphill, and a flat-earth cosmology.

    Thank Goddess its not 'that' ridiculous.
    Not to mention talking serpents, rods turning into serpents, frogs raining from the sky, the sun standing still, stone walls collapsing at the blast of a horn, women becoming pregnant with demigods by parthenogenesis, conversations with the Devil, walking on water...

    But why go on? Opera isn't real life, the way stuff like that is.
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    ^ All these things make sense - unless one takes them literally, that is.
    ... yet for us will still remain the holy German art... (Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiegendesLicht View Post
    ^ All these things make sense - unless one takes them literally, that is.
    Well, talking snakes make some kind of sense (I've met a few), but I'm having a tough time with those frogs.

    Wiki supplies the following:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_of_animals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodduck View Post
    Well, talking snakes make some kind of sense (I've met a few), but I'm having a tough time with those frogs.
    Wiki supplies the following:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_of_animals
    Well, the inspiration of the fable depends on the ignorance of the gentleman reading it.

    - I fear your out of luck, Lord Woodduck.
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    But the Ring makes perfect sense!

    At least to anyone with ears to hear.

    N.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Conte View Post
    But the Ring makes perfect sense!

    At least to anyone with ears to hear.


    N.


    Well, it makes sense to 'me'- fierce blonde Valkyries on winged steeds flying into the thick of battle.

    - I'm in.
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