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  • Augmented

    7 38.89%
  • Diminished

    3 16.67%
  • both of the above at the same time

    3 16.67%
  • Neither

    1 5.56%
  • I am a fool.

    4 22.22%
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Thread: Augmented vs. Diminished

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    Default Augmented vs. Diminished

    Intervals, triads, extended sonorities from other planets, you name it.

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    I voted the same as dim7.

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    If you put "I am a fool" as an option, it's not hard to guess who will choose it...
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    Neither. You don't fool with with Mother Nature.

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    Augmented. More is more!

    Definitely!
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    Gotta say, RichieW honey, that the diatonic augmented triad that occurs on the mediant (III) of the minor scale strikes the ear as curious, to say the least. Root position resolutions seem most effective to I or VI. What say you?

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    It has a leading tone that 'must' resolve to the tonic so the options are:

    I: with which already has two tones in common, making it the path of least resistance, resolving to a root.

    VI: with one common tone, resolving to a third which makes it somewhat more satisfactory. Also the strongest root movement if you assume the augmented triad has a root.

    IV: with no common tone, tritone cross relation of the leading tone with the subdominant!,resolving to a fifth, least satisfactory if permissible at all unless you are doing pseudo-medieval stuff.

    Oddly enough the (diminished) VII in major can only strictly resolve to I or VI too, and the effect can be a sort of similar dramatic gesture.
    Last edited by Richannes Wrahms; Oct-02-2015 at 01:01.

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    Augmented is so useful without being utilitarian, like the diminished runs the danger of.

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    The augmented scale is underrated.
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    Last night at the local bar, I took a poll and augmented came out ahead, especially as sung by Willie Nelson.

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    Using both at the same time you can get quite an attractive half-dimisnehed with a major 9th.....d-f-Ab-c-e
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspard de la Nuit View Post
    Using both at the same time you can get quite an attractive half-dimisnehed with a major 9th.....d-f-Ab-c-e
    This is the chord I was thinking of as well...Wikipedia says this is called a half-diminished ninth chord, but I'm not sure I trust that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isorhythm View Post
    This is the chord I was thinking of as well...Wikipedia says this is called a half-diminished ninth chord, but I'm not sure I trust that.
    Oh, I was thinking of building a diminished and augmented triad on the same root, ie D-F#-A#-F-Ab-D. It would be enharmonic to a Bb7 with an added minor sixth, or alternatively conceived as a derivation from a major minor thirds chord: D-F#-A-F.
    Last edited by Mahlerian; Oct-02-2015 at 21:35.

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    Finding all sorts of lovely harmonic things today - the mu chord, pentatonic Phrygian and now this.
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    I keep reading the title as "Augmented vs. Demented".
    Last edited by Dim7; Oct-03-2015 at 11:41.
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