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  • Mixolydian

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Thread: Favorite non-Ionian, non-Aeolian diatonic mode

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    Default Favorite non-Ionian, non-Aeolian diatonic mode

    The normal major and minor modes cannot be included because I say so. Though you could make some kind of academic argument that Ionian and especially Aeolian are not the same thing as normal major and minor, but we won't.
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    Always loved that good old Locrian.

    Slightly oriental feel to it. Well, more Middle Eastern.
    'In our way, Johnson strongly expressed his love of driving fast in a post-chaise. "If (said he) I had no duties, and no reference to futurity, I would spend my life in driving briskly in a post-chaise with a pretty woman;"' Boswell's Life of Johnson.

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    Lydian is beautiful

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    This is tough. I guess I like the Phrygian mode in the way that it was actually used, with a more or less constant Picardy third. The Lydian and Dorian in actual practice often shaded into major and minor for voice leading reasons. I do love the way Beethoven used those modes in pure form for special effect, though (A minor quartet op 132 and "Et incarnatus" from the Missa solemnis, respectively).

    I'm going to vote for Phrygian because it's the most distinctive of those, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Johnson View Post
    Always loved that good old Locrian.

    Slightly oriental feel to it. Well, more Middle Eastern.
    I'd be curious to listen songs using it, because I can't think of any song based on it.
    Reading wikipedia I've discovered this Dust to dust and I like the sound!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFrs5t7cwhY

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    Judas Priest's Painkiller is sort of locrianish. The main riff uses just 4 notes, but has all the distinctive locrian notes, and the tone centre is repeated very emphatically. A lot of metal has minorish riffs that have flattened seconds and fifths occasionally to create and "dark" and "evil" sound, but they are rarely in pure locrian or even pure phrygian.
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    I think I may play with the Locrian mode all afternoon.
    'In our way, Johnson strongly expressed his love of driving fast in a post-chaise. "If (said he) I had no duties, and no reference to futurity, I would spend my life in driving briskly in a post-chaise with a pretty woman;"' Boswell's Life of Johnson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norman bates View Post
    I'd be curious to listen songs using it, because I can't think of any song based on it.
    Reading wikipedia I've discovered this Dust to dust and I like the sound!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFrs5t7cwhY
    Thanks for finding that.

    'In our way, Johnson strongly expressed his love of driving fast in a post-chaise. "If (said he) I had no duties, and no reference to futurity, I would spend my life in driving briskly in a post-chaise with a pretty woman;"' Boswell's Life of Johnson.

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    I like the Phrygian pentatonic, it has a sort of rather mysterious soft tenseness. Dorian is nice but overused. Phrygian is actually the reverse of Ionian.

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    Phrygian pentatonic? Like E-F-A-B-D?
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    I'm a Dorian fan. I think it's a sax thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Johnson View Post
    I think I may play with the Locrian mode all afternoon.
    I feel I should be honest. I had a bit of a nap this afternoon. Nonetheless, refreshed, I sprang from the couch and jammed with the Locrian mode.

    If you are very unlucky some of you may hear the results!
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    'In our way, Johnson strongly expressed his love of driving fast in a post-chaise. "If (said he) I had no duties, and no reference to futurity, I would spend my life in driving briskly in a post-chaise with a pretty woman;"' Boswell's Life of Johnson.

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    all these beautiful diatonic modes, the "harmonias" as Terpandros, their creator called them.

    Dorian, humble, filling the soul with bravery

    Lydian, sometimes joyful and sometimes the perfect mode for lament

    Phrygian, lecherous, coming from the Asian worship of Aphrodite

    Ionian, soft and gentle

    Aeolian, sharp and lively

    Mixolydian, where the magic is

    Locrian, the least but not last

    I will go with Phrygian and Aeolian

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    I find Phrygian lovely for composing long melodies over a drone.
    The one downside is that I keep typing Phyrgian by accident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dim7 View Post
    Phrygian pentatonic? Like E-F-A-B-D?
    I'm not familiar with that one either but I would assume the notes would be E-G-A-B-D

    (but this is exactly the same as the regular pentatonic minor - so maybe you are right)
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