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    So I'm thinking about getting a nice set with the 4 concertos for piano. Any suggestions?? I have seen a couple of editions with Ashkenazy playing the piano. Are they any good?

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    They are very good.
    My personal favorite is Vasary with Yuri Ahronovitch and the London Symphony (DG).
    -->http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...s=music&sr=1-1

    Earl Wild with Jasha Horenstein & the Royal Philharmonic is highly praised, and rightly so.
    -->http://www.amazon.com/Piano-Concerto...0_SR160%2C160_
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orfeo View Post
    They are very good.
    My personal favorite is Vasary with Yuri Ahronovitch and the London Symphony (DG).
    -->http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...s=music&sr=1-1

    Earl Wild with Jasha Horenstein & the Royal Philharmonic is highly praised, and rightly so.
    -->http://www.amazon.com/Piano-Concerto...0_SR160%2C160_
    Thanks! Since they are quite affordable I will check them out on Spotify. I'll let you know!

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    I am partial to the recent recordings by Stephen Hough with Andrew Litton leading Dallas.



    The composer's own recordings are interesting for reference but have quite poor sound.
    "We should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once.
    And we should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh."
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    Balthazar: don't you think the piano on the Hough recording is too buried in the soundstage? I find it hard to hear.

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    I have and can recommend this set

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haydn man View Post
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    I have and can recommend this set
    I second this

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    Quote Originally Posted by GKC View Post
    Balthazar: don't you think the piano on the Hough recording is too buried in the soundstage? I find it hard to hear.
    I have no trouble hearing the piano, but I see what you mean -- the piano sound isn't so isolated and highlighted. Perhaps it has something to do with the live recording process?

    I rather like how the piano at times blends seamlessly into the orchestra. There is little of the banging that Rach recordings are frequently criticized for. I'll give these another listen today...
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    There are several Ashkenazys, inclduing the early set with Previn and the later one with Haitink, plus the earliest no.3 with Fistoulari. The 3rd with Previn has an unusual, impressive broadness, including in the cadenza - quite a fascinating contrast to most other recordings.

    Some interesting single recordings are

    - Richter/DG in 2, Lang-Lang/DG
    - Argerich in 3 + the early, historical, poor sound Horowitz ones such as with Reiner, Barbirolli and Coates
    - Michelangeli in 4
    - Rubinstein/Sabata in the Paganini Rapsody (historical, poor sound)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetJesus View Post
    So I'm thinking about getting a nice set with the 4 concertos for piano. Any suggestions?? I have seen a couple of editions with Ashkenazy playing the piano. Are they any good?
    Fwiw, I think Ashkenazy/Previn is great (and can usually be had very cheaply). If you'd like a larger box including other famous symphonic works, Jansons is also an excellent option:

    http://www.amazon.com/Symphonies-Pia...aninov+jansons

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    I joined specificly to give you guys my reccomendation. This may be my only post since you often focus on post-ww1 composers and I don't want to to comment on them until I have much more experience with them, which I might never have- I love my 19th-century, Debussy/Stravinsky-era and Baroque composers Soooooo much, but who knows....
    Anyway, I reccomend Rachmaninoff's own recordings.
    First, and most importantly- these performances may change your life. Really.
    second, it is the composer himself.
    3rd, he is maybe the greatest pianist in history.
    finally, the sound. I know there is hiss in the background, but the Presence of the music... Oh. My. God. It feels like Rachmaninoff, the piano and the entire Philadelphia Orchestra is two feet away... or less!
    And the way Rachmaninoff and the Orchestra perform..... Wow. Seriously, maybe my favorite recording of anything, including Led Zeppelin and the Bohm/Birgit Nilsson Tristan.

    Just my two cents' worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidsannderson View Post
    I joined specificly to give you guys my reccomendation. This may be my only post since you often focus on post-ww1 composers and I don't want to to comment on them until I have much more experience with them, which I might never have- I love my 19th-century, Debussy/Stravinsky-era and Baroque composers Soooooo much, but who knows....
    Anyway, I reccomend Rachmaninoff's own recordings.
    First, and most importantly- these performances may change your life. Really.
    second, it is the composer himself.
    3rd, he is maybe the greatest pianist in history.
    finally, the sound. I know there is hiss in the background, but the Presence of the music... Oh. My. God. It feels like Rachmaninoff, the piano and the entire Philadelphia Orchestra is two feet away... or less!
    And the way Rachmaninoff and the Orchestra perform..... Wow. Seriously, maybe my favorite recording of anything, including Led Zeppelin and the Bohm/Birgit Nilsson Tristan.

    Just my two cents' worth.
    Love Rachmaninov 2 & 3 piano concerto, 2nd symphony, Vocalise and prelude op 23. These are just to name a few of his works. Magical composer.
    Last edited by Judith; Aug-07-2016 at 20:40.

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    If you want all four concerti and PagRhap by the same performers, then Askenazy is a good choice. But why not sample around? Entremont recorded a fine version of 4th on vinyl in 1960s. Argerich's 3rd is too manic for me. Lisitsa's 2nd is lovely. And Stephen Hough is an excellent Rachmaninoff interpreter, in my opinion. Others will disagree, which is as it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judith View Post
    Love Rachmaninov 2 & 3 piano concerto, 2nd symphony, Vocalise and prelude op 23. These are just to name a few of his works. Magical composer.
    One of Rachmaninoff's many attractions for me is his affection for what I call the clangor of the piano, in its bell- or chime- or gong-like, percussive mode. This permeates many of the Preludes and the Etudes-Tableaux, but also his delightful two-piano suites and the two-piano version of the Symphonic Dances. The Ashkenazy/Previn double CD is a great intro to the duo-piano material, and you get the Corelli Variations and some other gems as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Magic View Post
    One of Rachmaninoff's many attractions for me is his affection for what I call the clangor of the piano, in its bell- or chime- or gong-like, percussive mode. This permeates many of the Preludes and the Etudes-Tableaux, but also his delightful two-piano suites and the two-piano version of the Symphonic Dances. The Ashkenazy/Previn double CD is a great intro to the duo-piano material, and you get the Corelli Variations and some other gems as well.
    Rachmaninov loved bells and his music often chimes, tolls and tintinabulates.
    For the Suites for 2Pianos, yes Ashkenazy and Previn are great, but also try Donohoe and Roscoe for a really bouncy, energetic rendering. Those two also do a wonderful reading of the Symphonic Dances.
    I seem to have wandered off the concerti, sorry. Tell you what, that Moura Lympany recorded a fine 2nd concerto back in the day.

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