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    I'm not a great fan of classical radio stations, listening to KDFC 102.1 only about twice or three times a week, on Sunday after church and on Saturday before I sleep.

    However, this is what I've noticed. Every time I turn it on it's either Autumn or Spring from Vivaldi's four seasons (exaggeration, but... almost true.) I mean, of all the four seasons, AUTUMN? Spring?

    Recently, they've been adding all this christmas junk to their pile of baroque/early classical monotony which has basically made me stop listening. Sometimes I wish I could control at least the type of music they play.

    I want to hear more piano + violin concertos, symphonies, overtures, and piano music BESIDES the chopin waltzes and brahms intermezzos.

    This is just KDFC, but I'm wondering, how are radio stations where you live? What kind of pieces should they cut down on? What pieces do they seem to play every day? What do you want to hear more of?

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    airad2 Why not do what a lot of us are doing and listen to Internet radio, your local stations can then become just one of many, my local station in NZ is not too bad but it is nice to have a change, log onto Reciva it is free and you will have a choice of nearly 15000 stations, classical=787 Jazz=592 all easy to use, you need BB and you will recieve through computer then if you like it you can purchase a Internet radio and if you go wireless you are truly set up

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    I used to sit in for a classical announcer whenever she went on vacation. When she quit, I took over until they found someone willing to work for their minute salary. That was several months (six or seven).

    I tried to play as various a repertoire as I could, but I was always being cautioned that most people playing the radio were doing so for background, that if Varese or Xenakis went out over the local dentist's office, for instance, they'd switch to another station, or to canned music. And you can't lose the dentist/doctor office contingent!!

    So that's a part, probably a big part, of why classical stations are so unadventurous. Because the audience they've identified as theirs is similarly unable or unwilling to venture. I haven't listened to radio for twenty years or more, probably.

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    I have to say the Nashville classical station is still quite good and has been since the 1960's. They play a varied repertoire and rarely dumb down the music. I say rarely because I have noticed a slight trend toward playing single movements instead of entire pieces, but I believe everyone is having to do this due to time constraints or maybe budget.

    At night they tap into Music through the Night or C24 (Classical 24 hours). I have yet to figure out if these are the same show, but they are excellent for introducing lesser known works.

    I haven't listened much lately because their signal is crowded on that end of the FM dial and the broadcasts can be noisy. Maybe if I break down and get a digital radio it will improve.

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    I highly recommend Vermont Public Radio at vpr.net . Their classical music service has a lot of variety and does not overplay the warhorses.

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    My local stations play too much music from the classical and baroque periods (and its not awesome stuff like Haydn symphonies or Bach keyboard or violin pieces), and religious choral music (and not the best in that field, imo). They sometimes play Romantic music, and very occasionally play 20th Century and modern music, but rarely. x_x Its abysmal. I tend to favor the local rock stations, where they more often play music worth a damn.

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    Strauss-Blue Danube But I love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurningDesire View Post
    My local stations play too much music from the classical and baroque periods (and its not awesome stuff like Haydn symphonies or Bach keyboard or violin pieces), and religious choral music (and not the best in that field, imo). They sometimes play Romantic music, and very occasionally play 20th Century and modern music, but rarely. x_x Its abysmal. I tend to favor the local rock stations, where they more often play music worth a damn.
    Why I can't find awesome stations like this? They love Romanticism on the stations in my area. Oh well.

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    We have one local classical station to serve the Dallas/Ft. Worth area called WRR 101.1 FM. It's not a bad station but like many classical stations they have to stick to a more accessible and commercial playlist during the day. Years ago they would play at least one complete work every hour but now they might twice a day. At night however they have much more of a diverse playlist. The only time I listen anymore is when I'm in the car but even then I use my Spotify app on my phone if I intend on driving any distance.

    We do have one other option and that is on Sunday mornings the local Denton college station KNTU plays classical but only a few hours. Their format otherwise is jazz.

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    My station hppr plays a good variety but not enough of it. I enjoy the exposure I'm getting on this forum to new and unfamiliar composers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neoshredder View Post
    Why I can't find awesome stations like this? They love Romanticism on the stations in my area. Oh well.
    Maybe you'd like it neoshredder. I just don't like listening to a station where the music all sounds the same XD and no offense, but the Classical and Baroque periods are by far the worst offenders in that way. There is serious genius from those periods, and there were great developments and ideas, but there's lots of blandness too, in my opinion X3

    Who knows, maybe they play hours upon hours of the music I like when I'm not in my car XD
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    I don't really need radio, because I have a music server that streams throughout my house 24/7. But it's taught me something about programming. Classical, baroque and romantic music almost always slides in to my daily life seamlessly. I rarely have to pull anything from rotation. The exceptions so far are Varese, Carmina Burana and Ravel's Bolero. I can listen to them if I'm in the mood, but that mood doesn't come around too terribly often.

    I'm working on an opera shuffle library. Not sure how that's going to work out yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by some guy View Post
    I used to sit in for a classical announcer whenever she went on vacation. When she quit, I took over until they found someone willing to work for their minute salary. That was several months (six or seven).

    I tried to play as various a repertoire as I could, but I was always being cautioned that most people playing the radio were doing so for background, that if Varese or Xenakis went out over the local dentist's office, for instance, they'd switch to another station, or to canned music. And you can't lose the dentist/doctor office contingent!!

    So that's a part, probably a big part, of why classical stations are so unadventurous. Because the audience they've identified as theirs is similarly unable or unwilling to venture. I haven't listened to radio for twenty years or more, probably.
    You got it! It's about not ruffling the feathers of their regular contributors. Same for the jazz stations I've listened to. I find the programming to be mind numbingly boring and uninteresting because they are catering to passive listeners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starthrower View Post
    You got it! It's about not ruffling the feathers of their regular contributors. Same for the jazz stations I've listened to. I find the programming to be mind numbingly boring and uninteresting because they are catering to passive listeners.
    Try KNTUs online stream. They play a wide variety of jazz and because it's a non-profit station they are not constrained by the commercial catalog. The downside to it is that they play such diverse categories of jazz that the transitions from one piece to the next can be jarring at times. And then a lot of times the play just simply bad jazz in my opinion but it may be just my taste and not necessarily their selections.

    Here's the link to their stream:

    http://www.kntu.com/stream/live/player.html

    Kevin
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    Radio stations are a real problem. There are essentially zero commercial classic stations for the obvious reason of limited listenership and the less obvious reason of too few available commercial breaks. We used to have one in LA called KMZT -- its most common ads were for mortuaries (whch may say something about the audience demographic!) Anyway, it long since disappeared into the subchannel jungle.

    Of course even public stations are forced into blandness. I believe most of their listeners are "passive" and that's not likely to change. Varere? Xenakis? Worse than dead air!


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