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    I have heard in radio this two samples and cannot identify the artist and the title. Can you identify this for me? Many Thanks!

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    Hi tom

    I can't be sure about either of these, but I'll hazard a guess that the first sample is something either late Classical or early Romantic (it puts me in mind of Mendelssohn), while the second sample could well be from a piece by Sarasate.

    Sorry I can't help more.

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    Default Haydn - String Quartet no.39 "The Bird"

    One down, one to go....

    The first sample is indeed from the Classical era... it's none other than "Papa" Haydn. It's from the 4th movement of his String Quartet No.39 in C major "The Bird" (Op.33 no.3).

    For the second clip, unless you can provide a little more than what's here now, I'm afraid you're on your own. With just that waltz theme, it sounds far too generic for me to narrow it down. If I could hear the development, I might be able to better guess at the composer. (But, in this listener's opinion, it doesn't sound virtuosic enough to be Sarasate...)
    Last edited by phoenixshade; Dec-23-2008 at 20:04.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixshade View Post
    One down, one to go....

    The first sample is indeed from the Classical era... it's none other than "Papa" Haydn. It's from the 4th movement of his String Quartet No.39 in C major "The Bird" (Op.33 no.3)
    I have two things to say about this. Firstly, thank you for identifying it (I was hoping someone could, as I rather enjoyed what little I heard); and secondly, this just confirms why, for me, the string quartet is the form I most closely associate with Haydn. The man was a genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuhlau View Post
    thank you for identifying it (I was hoping someone could, as I rather enjoyed what little I heard); and secondly, this just confirms why, for me, the string quartet is the form I most closely associate with Haydn. The man was a genius.
    Indeed. Immediately after identifying it, I jumped over to amazon and grabbed this recording:

    Last edited by phoenixshade; Dec-23-2008 at 21:20. Reason: Fixed image.

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    Thanks so much @phoenixshade, it is very amazing for the beginner like me to see how the professionals can recognize the samples. I've just checked out and it's really Haydn.

    I have just uploaded the second sample as a whole piece.

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    opus67 found that one for you, a few messages up. I apologize if it got lost in the discussion that followed.

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    That's where you have the advantage over me, phoenixshade - I can't read music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuhlau View Post
    That's where you have the advantage over me, phoenixshade - I can't read music.
    You'd be quite surprised at how quickly the ability to at least "approximately" read music can come just by following in the score as you listen. Check out imslp.org for public domain sheet music, instantly available as .pdf files.

    Pick a few short solo piano works that you know very well, and try to follow along as you listen. (Better yet, follow along as you "play it back" in your head, so that you can slow down the tempo as needed.)

    Most music has a fairly natural downbeat that marks the beginning of each measure, so start just by keeping a finger at the correct bar. You'll pretty quickly recognize melodic contours in the music. Hopefully not long after that you'll pick up on rhythms fairly well. Once that becomes automatic, you can start looking at the bass for harmonies. (This exercise, by the way, will also help you to pick up subtle harmonic shifts that you might miss with listening alone.)

    Where you go from there is up to you. This activity led me to an (admittedly too casual) study of piano. For a while, I was heading to my local community college almost every evening to sneak in some practice time on a Kawai concert grand. (Lately I've been contenting myself with a semi-decent electric piano with weighted keys... not quite the same, but much more convenient, and I never get chased off by a student with a legitimate reason to be there.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixshade View Post
    Check out imslp.org for public domain sheet music, instantly available as .pdf files.
    Great link. I'm always looking for sheet music to learn from.

    Oh - and after this thread I GOTTA get some Haydn string quartets.

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